Alright, I had a really good article on this subject but apparently I deleted it so I figured I'd ask you people. I was between 10-18 years old when he was president, so I wasn't paying much attention to politics at the time and just had a generally favorable impression of Clinton. My friend who got me into Ron Paul and turned me on to libertarianism (or made me realize I was one) tells me all the time that Bill Clinton was a horrible horrible president. I know there's something about him selling secrets to China, but I'm curious if anyone could inform me of the things he did to be a horrible president? (and I don't care about the blowjobs under the desk).I mean what did he do to actually hurt America and our individual rights or endanger us? links to any good articles work too. or just im me at fatal carnage (yeah, this screen name is from when he was still president ....hence the maturity level.)
Okay.. that was long and droning.. anyhow thanks in advance to anyone who replies.
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Google the title, "The Boys on the Tracks" Mara Leveritt is the author I believe. A fascinating and much under-told and little understood story, of not only the Clintons, but of Cocaine, Arkansas and the CIA, oh, and as usual, murder.
Never trust any politician from Arkansas. Hey look! There's Huckster Huckaby on FAUX News!
Bill Clinton isn't a bad president according to me. He did well to save the sovereignty of the country. Just one incident doesn't make him the bad president.
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Clinton gave us NAFTA and continued open border policies....
I served under NATO command in Kosovo thanks to Bill Clinton.
Then there was Waco, the Brady bill, the attempt to push government health care, Ruby Ridge - And the federal government was bigger at the end of Clintons 8 years....
Bill Clinton was just another tool of the Federal Reserve Banksters.
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Why are so many people acting like honorary membership is something new? Of the Devine 9, besides Zeta, Sigma probably has had the least amount of honorary members 642-655 exam. It was a coup for AKA to(supposedly)get Michelle Obama but it’s now a source of bewilderment that Clinton received a nod from Phi Beta Sigma 646-230 exam. Sigma was the first to integrate, step(and with canes before the Kappas), establish chapters in Africa, (Black frat) to own a fraternity house and now the first to have a former U.S. President as a memeber. There are even several past presidents of African nations that are members of Sigma 000-974 exam. Lay off the Haterade, people.
And then google "Ruby Ridge"
Bill Clinton had Americans murdered on his watch.
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I thought Clinton was the worst president, but then W came along. W has done more damage to the constitution than BC did.
They both spew out the same CFR/Bilderbug agenda, but Bush jr gets the prize.
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" mean what did he do to actually hurt America and our individual rights or endanger us? links to any good articles work too."
http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc.html
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/28/12723.shtml
Enron and Bill Clinton
Charles R. Smith
Thursday, Feb. 28, 2002
Trade Trips to Russia, India, Bosnia and Indonesia
I must admit to an error in my most recent article on the Enron scandal. Lovers of ex-President Bill Clinton will be overjoyed to find that Enron's top exec Ken Lay did not stay at the White House 11 times.
However, the bad news for those who still worship Mr. Clinton is that Enron not only donated $100,000 to Clinton's 1993 inauguration but, according to the records, also added an additional $25,000 to the Clinton 1993 celebrations.
The documented evidence shows that Enron did make it into the Clinton White House by special invitation. Senior Vice President Terrance H. Thorn had coffee with Bill Clinton on March 5, 1996.
Many of the other attendees of the Clinton White House coffee sessions also make up a long list of convicted criminals, arms dealers and bagmen for illegal DNC contributions.
For example, Wang Jun had coffee with Clinton in 1996. Wang is also the president of Poly Technologies, the largest arms trading firm owned by the People's Liberation Army. Poly Tech is currently banned from doing business in the United States after several of its top executives conspired to smuggle machine guns into the U.S. for sale to a major drug dealer – who later turned out to be a Customs agent posing as a gangster.
Charlie "Yah Lin" Trie, who was later convicted of illegally passing hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clinton/Gore re-election campaign, brought Wang into the White House. Trie also gave an additional $645,000 to the Democratic National Committee, and most of this money was from illegal foreign sources.
Trip to Russia
Enron's association with the Clinton White House comes even closer to home when you consider the many corporate foreign trade trips paid for by your tax dollars. In 1994, Enron's CEO Ken Lay surfaced on a list of attendees wishing to travel to Russia with Ron Brown.
One person who did make the trade trip to Russia was Roger Tamraz. Interpol then wanted Tamraz, a Lebanese oil financier, for embezzling nearly $80 million from a Middle Eastern bank. Tamraz, who made most of his money selling Libyan oil, would later give more than $300,000 to the DNC after having coffee with Bill Clinton in the White House.
Russia was not the only target of Enron wheeling-and-dealing with the Clinton administration. Enron execs traveled on a profitable trade trip to India with Ron Brown, landing a major contract for a power plant. The India power plant deal later fell apart with allegations of illegal payments and bribery.
Trip to Bosnia
Enron also traveled in 1997 to Bosnia with Commerce Secretary Kantor in hopes of landing a U.S. taxpayer-backed energy deal in the war-torn state. According to the Chicago Tribune, Enron made a $100,000 donation to the DNC just days prior to the trade mission to the former Yugoslav province. Commerce Department documents clearly note that Enron was interested in the "Zagreb" portion of the trip.
Even in the last days of Bill Clinton, Enron execs were on the go. Enron traveled to South Korea with Commerce Secretary William Daley in 1999. Daley would go on to run Vice President Al Gore's failed bid for the White House in 2000.
Trip to Indonesia
The most damning evidence linking Bill Clinton and Enron to corruption is the documentation that shows Enron received U.S. taxpayer monies in order to finance a corrupt deal with Indonesia.
P.T. East Java Power Corp., which was then 50.1 percent owned by Enron, wanted to conclude a deal for a 500 megawatt power plant in East Java, Indonesia. The 20-year deal was later signed by Enron with P.T. PLN Persero (PLN), Indonesia's state-owned electric utility, which agreed to purchase the power from the natural-gas-fired plant.
According to Enron, the natural gas for the project was to be provided by Pertamina, Indonesia's state-owned oil and gas company. Commerce Department documents noted that Pertamina stalled the project with excessive demands for gas prices.
"Enron is now engaged with Pertamina over access to natural gas. These discussions may prove difficult," states a 1994 Commerce Department advocacy document.
"Enron is registered for OPIC (Overseas Private Investment Corporation) insurance," states the document, noting that the giant corporation obtained U.S. taxpayer-backed insurance if the Indonesian deal fell apart.
Ron Brown Letters for Enron
Ron Brown personally sought approval for the Enron electric power plants inside Indonesia. According to a personal letter directed to the Indonesian Minister for Trade and Industry, Brown endorsed two Enron deals for gas-fired power plants with the corrupt Suharto regime.
"Enron power, a world renowned private power developer, is in the final stages of negotiating two combined cycle, gas turbine power projects," wrote Brown in his 1995 letter.
"The first, a 500 MW plant in East Java, should bring commercial power generation by the end of 1997 if it can promptly negotiate a gas supply Memorandum of Understanding with Pertamina. The other project, a smaller plant in East Kalimantan, also awaits a gas supply agreement.
"I urge you to give full consideration to the proposals," concluded Brown to the Indonesian minister. In October 1995, Brown wrote another letter, this time to Hartarto Sastrosurarto, Indonesia's Coordinating Minister for Trade and Industry, pressing him to conclude the Enron power plant deals.
"I would like to bring to your attention a number of projects involving American companies which seem to be stalled, including several independent power projects. These projects include the Tarahan power project, which involves Southern Electric; the gas powered projects in East Java and East Kalimantan, which involves Enron," wrote Brown.
"Your support for prompt resolution of the remaining issues associated with each of these projects would be most appreciated," concluded Brown.
On Nov. 18, 1996, Enron CEO Ken Lay announced that the deal with Suharto was complete. According to Enron's public statement, the U.S.-led energy company had finally won the East Java Power project.
Corruption, Collusion and Nepotism
Yet the Enron success was clouded by allegations that the power plant deals were filled with kickbacks for the Suharto family. In October 1998, U.S. Ambassador J. Stapleton Roy wrote a diplomatic cable that he had recently met with Indonesian Director General of Electricity Endro Utomo Notodisoerjo.
"Commenting on corruption, collusion and nepotism (KKN), Endro said that in the past there was no separation between 'power' (not electric but former first family power) and business. 'All the IPP's (Independent Power Projects) have a relation with power, and it is still going on,' added Endro."
According to State Department documents, Enron signed on to a deal filled with "corruption, collusion and nepotism." One State Department cable included an entire section titled "Dealing with unwanted partners" that detailed corruption inside the two Enron power plants at East Kalimantan and East Java.
"Unocal executives told resources officer that the firm is close to reaching a deal with its partner, PT Nusamba (controlled by former President Soeharto crony Bob Hasan) to sever ties in two production sharing contracts (PSC) in East Kalimantan and East Java," notes the State Department cable.
Eventually, the Indonesian economy collapsed and Suharto was overthrown. The resulting economic mess forced Indonesia to default on its payments for the Enron power plants. The U.S. taxpayer using its insurance, however, paid off Enron. One such policy for Enron was obtained through the World Bank Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency or MIGA.
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kudos to Bill for living out his fantasy as a coked up pimp in the back of a limo with a machine gun toting gang to protect him
GAWD DANG! Now that is funny!
of the rise of the police state
he passed Nafta (or stamped it - as he was told to)
What Clinton had was empathy. Despite carrying out the NWO agenda he managed to shift a little prosperity towards the middle class during his tenure.
Of course, it would be best to have no gov't redistribution of wealth - but compared to a massive redistribution upwards, his moves benefited many more people.
You also have to take into consideration that republicans controlled congress during Clinton's presidency. It is actually good to have a democratic president and a republican congress because it keeps republicans actual republicans most of the time.
The reason its good to have a democratic president and a republican congress is that it actually keeps the republicans pro-limited government for the most part.
One part about the Clinton presidency that was terrible was his foreign policy.
Sometimes it is good to be reminded that it is Congress, not the President, that ultimately holds the powers to enslave us. THe Patriot Act, The Military Commissions Act of 2006, Medicare Drug Program were all given to us by Congress - even if Bush did think they were great ideas, and even pressured Congress to give them to him.
If you remember Clinton's campaign, he really separated himself from the ultra-liberal Democrats. All of the old party hacks were pushed to the sidelines. Then, as soon as he got into office, he tried to go liberal all the way. His approval rating went into the toilet, the saying going around was "Clinton and Gore, out in Four." After that, Congress passed welfare reform, he signed it, and Hillary's attempt at socialized medicine faded away, and he generally stayed out of the way, other than his awful foreign policy, correclty pointed out by Gail. By the end of his presidency, he was generally thought of as doing great things, which for the most part was staying out of the way.
The only caveat to all of that is that history has shown that the "great prosperity" that accompanied his 2 terms (and which he had nothing to do with) was really just a phony bubble, engineered by cheap money from the Federal Reserve. When Bush got in, he really inherited Clinton's recession, and only after a Herculean effort did he distinguish himself with his own screw-ups.
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Somehow Herculean and Bush just don't fit. (I know, humor.)
I think his effort was more like, "Hey Dick, what do you think I should do?"