Reviving the Constitutional, well-regulated state militias to ensure American liberty
Posted by Ether 8-24 on Fri, 04/25/2008 - 21:05 in
I just received an email from a freedom-loving friend of mine who has talked with several members of the legislature in my state about reviving the Constitutional, well-regulated state militia. The legislators were enthused about the idea, but said that in order for a bill containing anything akin to the word "militia" in it to ever make it out of the rules committee, there would have to be a groundswell of support for it from the people.
I propose that we take this idea to the people in a big way.
The following link is to Dr. Edwin Vieira's article about April 19, 1775, and why Americans were ready for the British at Concord--and what that eventually meant for American freedom.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin79.htm
I encourage everyone to read this article and to feel the patriotic spirit and sense of people-power it engenders. The founders knew that well-regulated militias in every state were "necessary" for freedom. I think it is time for us to tell our state legislators that we need to renew the well-regulated militia in our states, so that we can prevent the abuse of power that could come down to us during a time of difficulty.
If we are willing to give of ourselves to become part of a well-regulated, Constitutional militia in our state, that small prevention may be worth a trillion pounds of cure down the line for our own freedom, and for the freedom of our children and grandchildren.
This is not a radical idea. It is a practical one for any free people that wish to remain free. Think about it, then pass the idea along to your representatives in your state.
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have a reputation for infiltrating organized malitias and then setting up good honest people to be the fall guy. If you desire to be in a malitia, organize a few friends and neighbors that you really know and trust. Create a plan for self sustainment and when the time comes we will know who we can trust and rely on. (They usually have a Ron Paul sign around).
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What we have to do is to get all your friends and family to "Voluntarily" join together to form local militia groups in defense of your local community. Maybe your local village or town will have enough elected officials to support your local militia outfit and "regulate" it by sponsoring training days and drills. If you don't have these type of officials, ELECT them! Then, practice, practice, practice!!! We must restore our Republic, One State, One Town and One community at a time. The power is in your hands people, use it.
Rick
It does not take a majority to prevail,
but rather an irate, tireless minority keen
to set brush fires in the peoples minds.
Samuel Adams
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This sounds adventurous, but I hope everyone realizes that there is no way that citizens' militia groups are going to have any effect against the US military, as realblogspot has correctly pointed out. If you remember, the colonial militia had no real effect against the British regular army either. They usually fled the battlefield after firing one shot - and they were a lot more comparably equipped to the British army than any militia today would be to the US armed forces. Professional military personnel that are trained and experienced against a well meaning and even brave citizen militia is like the New England Patriots playing your local tavern's softball team - in football.
I am not so sure that the average military man or woman would go along with a truly malevolent clampdown, though. They didn't like what they did in New Orleans, and said so. When push comes to shove, I'm not sure they would support a full-fledged police state. In a nightmare scenario like that, you would do better to convince individual regiments, platoons, etc. to defect.
I don't think it will come to any of that. I think we are heading more for "fascism with a smile," and our real fight is for the hearts and minds of the American people in general. If their sense of freedom is reawakened, we can achieve everything we want just by forcing the issue politically. Right now, the average American is brainwashed into thinking that the welfare/warfare state we have now is the best thing for them.
Tom Mullen
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"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson
Having a militia to guard against tyranny, and then handing the control of such militia to the state is akin to the old fox guarding the hen house analogy.
Regardless of your position, political avenues should still be pursued.
One thing most people don't understand is the elected office of your local county sheriff is probably the most powerful political position in your local government. The county sheriff is the only person with the inherent ability to legally deputize any number of citizens into a well regulated official government militia at his personal discretion.
Imagine a country full of networked county sheriffs hell bent on defending the constitution.
Something to think about...
God bless,
Nick
Quotable quote:
"Sell your cleverness and purchase bewilderment"~?
Yes, that is something to think about. Most of the sheriffs though have become corrupt. I know that there are still good cops out there, but I would say that 70%, at the very least are full blown corrupt criminals, and the king pins are the sheriffs, and the Upper echelon of the district and state levels.
How would it be able to defend itself against the US Military are the UN Military that the US Military will merge into?
If you REALLY want to know how to defend yourself in any situation, start learning now while you still can. Read up on how Yugoslavians managed to fight back against the nazis, and later the communists. Read about the Hungarian resistance. Also France, which will teach you about the deadly dangers of collaborators. The Jews have done this famously throughout history.
Throughout human history, tyrants have been defeated by those who knew how to use the necessary tactics and strategies to resist and to prevail.
Our own American revolution has reams of information in this regard. And remember, whenever you feel outnumbered, only 5% of the American population actually participated in that revolution. I'd say we already have far more than that in the RP r3volution.
I don't worry about nuthin.....
Unless it jumps right out in front of me......
Then I don't worry about it......
Unless it tries to bite me.......
Then I don't worry about it......
I just kill it!
No worries!
Then. Ground penetrating radar. Sound weapons. Electromagnetic weapons. Space based laser(star wars) platforms. Take a good look at google images of area 51, their are laser scars in many sectors of the facility. Their black, have no topographical signatures. No tonal or hue contrasts. When analyzed using digital filtering there is no contours, or radial offsets to indicate curvatures, soil density, etc.
The US government also has plans for a possible nuke, bio attack, etc on the homeland.
The military is well prepared in avenues unknown to a civilian.
The above mentioned examples are of urban gorilla warfare against a state army of minimal size and strength.
You are right in saying that the personal would never go along with it. The most wont, however that is why foreign troops are on American soil(google around, you will find it), and why they are letting illegals into the military. Historical sign we are heading down the road of Nazi Germany.
I dont think that the average American citizen is prepared to do battle with the Global Military.
"I don't worry about nuthin.....
Unless it jumps right out in front of me......
Then I don't worry about it......
Unless it tries to bite me.......
Then I don't worry about it......
I just kill it!
No worries!"
I sure you are this way, and its one of the problems. The no "worries attitude". And indication of this situation being a concern are the exact attitudes that are reflected in your comments.
Looking at the current situation of the police activity in this country(traitors that they are), and that many of them are ex military, and still are engaging in the un Constitutional activity that they are;much less the war, and knowing the type of mentality of the military firsthand myself, I see no reason as to why the personal will not go and do the bidding of their superiors if they are lead to believe that doing so will protect the country.
The last 9 10 years have proven that the majority will do this.
Id say that there is reason for concern, and multifaceted planning. And that is what is taking place within circles of Veterans nation wide.
However todays Military is a tad bit different. Microwave weapons, electromagnetic, and scaler, are all weapons that exist, and no amount of fighting techniques or gorilla warfare will act as a resistance from it. Also, there are Genetic specific bio-weapons that could be released and have a 90% kill rate within hours.
Why would they play sticks and stones with us?
Then clearly we need to develop defenses and countermeasures.
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I know this is at odds with most current interpretations, but if you read this carefully, a reasonable person could take this to mean that the right of the people to bear arms is also intended to regulate (balance the power of) the militia.
The less the federal and state governments know about the existence of Militias, the better. They cannot draft what they cannot see or are unaware of.
There are currently 68 KNOWN Militia units in America. Fortunately there are far more that are unknown. You will find Militia units only through direct personal contact with one or more of their members. This is to avoid the fed getting inside info in the force and structure. THIS is the type of militia needed. True, the National Guard is funded by the fed, and used at their pleasure for national goals. If you want to be a part of the National Guard, go for it. Then, after you are well-trained, go looking for your local militia. You'll find them, and they won't be available for call-up to the fed.
I don't worry about nuthin.....
Unless it jumps right out in front of me......
Then I don't worry about it......
Unless it tries to bite me.......
Then I don't worry about it......
I just kill it!
No worries!
big 10-4 good buddy. The countries well armed, and prepared for whats coming on down the line.
Excellent point, herbertebrownii. Secrecy is the icing on the cake of a well regulated militia.
It appears that the forces of uncoolness have really shot themselves in both feet
by outlawing private militias in twenty four states. I certainly can't locate them in Florida,
where I'm sure there's more firearms than people.
Perhaps the secret government will be sufficiently intimidated by ammunition sales
figures, especially at times unrelated to hunting season, to table their plans for
martial law/ internment/ forced thimerosol vaccination.
Doing civil defense work to control riots and traffic for them, while they continue
to plunder society in the most extreme ways imaginable has very limited appeal.
They'll probably want the official militias to assist in firearm confiscation too, if not
actually perform population control surgery on themselves.
Persons worried about terrorists attacking them from helicopters or armored
vehicles, or coordinating their efforts through sophisticated electronics should
investigate microwave pulse weapons. The police now have a cartop box that
will burn out the electronics on a vehicle they're pursuing with a nanosecond
high energy microwave pulse. Community disaster preparedness would seem
to dictate that we all have them.
You can't be too thorough when it comes to protecting society from terrorists, all
of whom I believe are controlled at the highest levels by the owners of the world's
central banks(Hegelian dialectics and all that).
Cheers!
There are billboards on the highways throughout Philadelphia promoting a new law that requires private owners of guns (not gun shops) to register with the gov't when they sell or give away their guns. This seems like an initial step towards outlawing gun possession. I'm not a gun owner (yet) but I wonder how people would suggest responding to it.
Do you simply ignore the law and hope to not be targeted? Do you band together and petition the politicians (this is only so effective).
I'm also wondering how to respond to the Real ID law.
It seems like a traffic ticket situation where if you don't do what they say right away you start accruing fines and it gets worse and worse.....
No where does "well regulated" entail government oversight (local, state, or federal). A poorly or unregulated militia will, as you say, not be well qualified to take on any opposing force. But to say that such "certification" of ability must come from the state does not follow. Look at education (home school vs. public) for a prime example.
Me and my guns are regulated well enough, thank you.
We got one in South Carolina:
http://www.scsg.org/
DSC
Here's a link that might help you find your local militia.
http://www.constitution.org/mil/link2mil.htm
I found the Vieira article quite convincing. I scroogled (google w/o the security problem)
"Florida Militia " and sure enough it's there. Not run or owned by politicians, got their own
manuals, groups in every county: just what the doctor ordered. Just what I (and the whole
country)needs. Probably a good source of social contacts. I'm not too worried about the
purported racist overtones, I'll deal with it, as I always have.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/armed-and-dangerous/florida...
If a million people throughout the country were fully prepped volunteer militia members I
think it would give our rogue politicians pause on their obvious plans to create a fully locked
down police state. It might also create enough deterrence to keep Dr. Paul breathing, as I
greatly fear for his safety.
On the subject of weaponry, there is a new tool available that has proven highly effective
and doesn't entail either personal injury or legal issues. It's an intent amplifier and called a
"succor punch". It's use may require some practice, but the power it imparts becomes
progressively internalized in the user, so the hardware becomes unnecessary. Scroogle that.
(I have no related financial interest here.) It can be used to make people think what you
need them to think, but will not facilitate unethical behavior; it's useless to darksiders. FWIW.
Like the discussion and am interested in the idea.
I really like the general tone of being more sulf sufficient rather than being dependant on the Govt for anything... be it food, military "protection" or healthcare for that matter.
"Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it."
-George Bernard Shaw
Dood! You are talking about the national guard. The Militia is not a function of state gov. The state gov. supplies the National Guard. The Militia is a function of the PEOPLE. The Militia are volunteers, you know, like the Minute Men of the Revolutionary War. The Militia is composed of ALL able bodied men between the ages of 18 and 45. The Militia is already defined, no more legislation is required!
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve.
--Benjamin Franklin, Autobiography, 1771--
Agreed. And misconceptions as to what the militia is lead people to conclude that there is no individual right to bear arms.
How to regulate it? The militia is a volunteer force and must be regulated by the volunteers themselves. It might be more convenient to ask the state to organize the militia, since they're so good at organizing things, but that is not what the militia is. The militia predates the state, and continues to exist whether the state continues or not. It is the fundamental unit of common defense, from which the state derives its authority.
I understand where you are coming from, but I have one problem with your analysis. If the militia is to be "well regulated," then how does that occur if it is consists merely of unregulated, untrained, incoherent masses of citizens with rifles? I think there needs to be something more.
I suggest going back and reviewing the article that I linked and trying to work from that as a baseline. If the militia is not organized, then it is not effective at preventing tyranny, or promoting freedom.
I would be happy to offer my service to the state when needed as a healthy patriot should, but if joining the National Guard(currently guarding oil pipelines probably owned by HAL) means getting shipped to Iraq then I say "no thanks"
It seems like a new organization would need to be created that cannot be sent to pre-emptive wars regarding natural resources.
I think that is the argument that Dr. Vieira is making. If the state is the sole power over the "well-regulated militia," then the fedgov has no authority over, or stake in it. If the state tries to send a volunteer, non-paid militia oversees, I'd say they are gonna have a heck of a time getting that to fly. If the militia is called up for the defense of the state, I'll be the first one there. I think the idea of the militia being voluntary and unpaid makes it nearly impossible to be used as a elitist policy enforcing sledgehammer.