US Considers Quashing Report Critical of Israel
Posted by NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL on Wed, 07/23/2008 - 22:18 inFrom: James Morris
Subject: Thank you for your courage, General Jones (US Considers Quashing Report Critical of Israel)
To: General James Jones
Cc: Lee Hamilton
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:39 AM
Dear General Jones,
I bring you back to our brief conservation on the telephone when I mentioned for you to look up 'Israel as a terrorist's motivation' in the index of James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book as you are courageously addressing the primary motivation for the tragic attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993 and on 9/11 (as I conveyed to former 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton via the 'What Motivated the 9/11 Hijackers' youtube which is linked on the lower right at http://neoconzionistthreat.com and http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com as well). The youtube video of my comment/question for Scott McClellan in Santa Monica last month is linked at those URLs as well. The youtube of my question/comment for Colonel Reese (who has co-written the history of the Iraq occupation since the fall of Saddam) on C-SPAN's 'Washington Journal' is also linked at http://neoconzionistthreat.com and http://neoconzionistthreat.blogspot.com too.
You might be interested in what contact/friend Francis Boyle is trying to push for as well (see the following interview at your convenience if interested):
US lawyer seeks to sue US over Iran threats
http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=64435§ionid=3510302
With kindest regards,
James Morris
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From: James Morris
Subject: US Considers Quashing Report Critical of Israel
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:13 AM
US Considers Quashing Report Critical of Israel
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/7/23/headlines
In other news, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports the Bush administration is debating whether to silence a forthcoming high-level report critical of Israel’s conduct in the Occupied Territories. The report is written by the top US official there, retired general James Jones. According to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, Jones has written a “scathing” report criticizing both the Israeli government and the White House. Israeli officials who met with Jones said they expect the report to be “very harsh, and make Israel look very bad.” Jones is said to be particularly critical of Israel’s claim to have security interests to justify its large settlement blocs on Palestinian land. Top administration officials are said to be so upset by the report they are debating blocking its release.
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1004143.html
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Israel fears scathing U.S. report on its West Bank policies
By Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff
The United States security coordinator for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, retired general James Jones, is preparing an extremely critical report of Israel's policies in the territories and its attitude toward the Palestinian Authority's security services.
A few copies of the report's executive summary (or, according to some sources, a draft of it) have been given to senior Bush Administration officials, and it is reportedly arousing considerable discomfort. In recent weeks, the administration has been debating whether to allow Jones to publish his full report, or whether to tell him to shelve it and make do with the summary, given the approaching end of President George Bush's term.
Jones was appointed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice following the Annapolis peace conference last November. His assignment was to draft a strategic plan to facilitate stabilization of the security situation, as a necessary accompaniment to Israeli-Palestinian final-status negotiations. In this context, he assessed the PA security forces in the West Bank, whose reform is being overseen by another American general, Keith Dayton. Jones has visited the region several times and met with senior Israeli government officials and army officers.
According to both Israeli and American sources, the envoy's conclusions about Israel are scathing. Israelis who met with Jones on his most recent visit here a few weeks ago, including Israel Defense Forces officers, said their impression was that the report would be "very harsh, and make Israel look very bad."
Jones is apparently critical of Israel on two key issues. One is its fairly broad definition of its security interests in the West Bank under any final-status agreement. The other is its attitude toward the PA security services.
However, the sources said, Jones also had some criticism for Washington: He said its efforts to reform the PA security services fell short and complained that U.S. government agencies are not coordinating their assistance for these forces. In addition, he reportedly concluded that the PA forces are not yet capable of effectively enforcing the law in the West Bank.
The harsh criticisms contained in the executive summary are reportedly upsetting the Bush administration. Some senior U.S. officials are demanding that the full report not be published, so as not to create a storm in advance of the presidential elections in November. Jones, however, is apparently insisting that his full report be published,
just as the report he issued last year on the Iraqi security forces was.
Officials at the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv declined to comment.
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US official James Jones preparing hard critique of Israeli West Bank policies
http://zionism-israel.com/israel_news/2008/07/us-official-james-jones-pr...
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U.S. official preparing scathing report on Israel's West Bank policies
By Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff
The United States security coordinator for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, retired general James Jones, is preparing an extremely critical report of Israel's policies in the territories and its attitude toward the Palestinian Authority's security services. A few copies of the report's executive summary (or, according to some sources, a draft of it) have been given to senior Bush Administration officials, and it is reportedly arousing considerable discomfort. In recent weeks, the administration has been debating whether to allow Jones to publish his full report, or whether to tell him to shelve it and make do with the summary, given the approaching end of President George Bush's term. Jones was appointed by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice following the Annapolis peace conference last November. His assignment was to draft a strategic plan to facilitate stabilization of the security situation, as a necessary accompaniment to Israeli-Palestinian final-status negotiations. In this context, he assessed the PA security forces in the West Bank, whose reform is being overseen by another American general, Keith Dayton. Jones has visited the region several times and met with senior Israeli government officials and army officers. According to both Israeli and American sources, the envoy's conclusions about Israel are scathing. Israelis who met with Jones on his most recent visit here a few weeks ago, including Israel Defense Forces officers, said their impression was that the report would be "very harsh, and make Israel look very bad." Jones is apparently critical of Israel on two key issues. One is its fairly broad definition of its security interests in the West Bank under any final-status agreement. The other is its attitude toward the PA security services.
However, the sources said, Jones also had some criticism for Washington: He said its efforts to reform the PA security services fell short and complained that U.S. government agencies are not coordinating their assistance for these forces. In addition, he reportedly concluded that the PA forces are not yet capable of effectively enforcing the law in the West Bank. The harsh criticisms contained in the executive summary are reportedly upsetting the Bush administration. Some senior U.S. officials are demanding that the full report not be published, so as not to create a storm in advance of the presidential elections in November. Jones, however, is apparently insisting that his full report be published,
just as the report he issued last year on the Iraqi security forces was.
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"You just said a person climbing over roofs with a rocket launcher. Thats gorilla warfare fool...."
You are calling me a fool? That's a laugh and a half.
Ever ask yourself why all the Muslim countries don't all just gang up and over-run Israel? Ever ask yourself why America sends MORE money to these little Arab fiefdoms than they send to Israel?
Ever ask yourself WHO benefits the most to have a little country of Jews to scapegoat for every atrocity they, as dictatorships, inflict on their own people?
The existence of Isael is a boon to all of the wanna be dictators in the region. They have an enemy that they can rally against to keep their populations from figuring out just how far up the yin yang the government can crawl.
And not one of them have offered the Palestininians a glorious land give away to aid in their cause.
The status quo aids every last one of them.
"The September 1993 Israel-PLO Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements provided for a transitional period of Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Under a series of agreements signed between May 1994 and September 1999, Israel transferred to the Palestinian Authority (PA) security and civilian responsibility for Palestinian-populated areas of the West Bank and Gaza. Negotiations to determine the permanent status of the West Bank and Gaza stalled following the outbreak of an intifada in September 2000, as Israeli forces reoccupied most Palestinian-controlled areas."
"Israel controls maritime, airspace, and most access to the Gaza Strip"
Muslim (predominantly Sunni) 99.3%, Christian 0.7%
"High population density, limited land access, and strict internal and external security controls have kept economic conditions in the Gaza Strip"
"The beginning of the second intifadah in September 2000 sparked an economic downturn, largely the result of Israeli closure policies; these policies, which were imposed to address security concerns in Israel, disrupted labor and trade access to and from the Gaza Strip."
"In 2001, and even more severely in 2003, Israeli military measures in PA areas resulted in the destruction of capital, the disruption of administrative structures, and widespread business closures."
"Population below poverty line:Definition Field Listing80% (2007 est.)"
"Industrial production growth rate:Definition Field Listing Rank Orde 2.4% (includes West Bank) (2005)"
"Imports:Definition Field Listing Rank Order$2.44 billion c.i.f.; (includes West Bank) (2005)"
"Imports - commodities:Definition Field Listingfood, consumer goods, construction materials"
"Imports - partners:Definition Field ListingIsrael, Egypt, West Bank (2006)"
"Currency (code):Definition Field Listingnew Israeli shekel (ILS)"
"Telephone system:Definition Field Listinggeneral assessment: NAdomestic: Israeli company BEZEK and the Palestinian company PALTEL are responsible for fixed line services; the Palestinian JAWAL company provides cellular servicesinternational: country code - 970 (2004)"
"Television broadcast stations:Definition Field Listing1 (2008)"
"Military branches:Definition Field Listingin accordance with the peace agreement, the Palestinian Authority is not permitted conventional military forces; there are, however, public security forces (2008)"
"Refugees and internally displaced persons:Definition Field Listingrefugees (country of origin): 1.017 million (Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA)) (2007)"
"Population:Definition Field Listing1,537,269 (July 2008 est.)"
The last two are profound are they not?
(Source) https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gz.html
http://www.littleredbutton.com/gaza/
On no, there is no wall. No, its not Genocide or War Crimes, or Human Rights Violations. Like so many recurrently point out, its just war, so is Iraq, Vietnam, and the Nazi Bush, errr Hitler, Stalin, Mao, there just doing their jobs right.
25,000 US dollars.
That was the going rate for a suicide bomber's family, if they could just get a son or daughter to strap on a bomb and walk into a Jewish populated area and blow themselves up. A bus, a coffee shop...
Paid by Saddam with his love and kisses.
Therefore, a wall.
And yes, it is a war over land and religious belief and percieved ethnicity.
And no, neither side has any right to call themselves moral.
"That was the going rate for a suicide bomber's family, if they could just get a son or daughter to strap on a bomb and walk into a Jewish populated area and blow themselves up. A bus, a coffee shop..."
Paid by Saddam with his love and kisses. I suppose this is another 'link' that supposedly existed? Prove it.
Israel Says That a Prisoner's Tale Links Arabs in U.S. to Terrorism:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEFDF133FF934A25751C0A...
There is a developing nexus of information linking Obama as well with Hammas:
http://thinkingpoints.thengia.org/2008/08/07/Barack%20Obama's%20Terrorism%20Connections%20Part%20II.aspx
To have created this organization would provide the continual and permanent 'pretext'.
So since the US Government has sanctioned terrorism against many other places, sometimes in the name of Christianity, does that mean that innocent people somewhere else deserve to pay for it.
This is what you are saying. That since Saddam sent a check(something that is not even factually known or not)to an terrorist organization, that the Palestinians have to pay the price, mostly woman and children?
One can quantify all day long, the American people still support War Crimes, Genocide, and Human Rights violations.
And to just say what the hell thats just the way it is doesnt sound very moral, since the entire operation is coming from OUR pockets.
""That since Saddam sent a check(something that is not even factually known"
Are you waiting to see a cancelled check?
The American people support no such thing. But you do.
And the MK in South Africa where considered an Terrorist Organization, and he is still the acclaim of many for being such an honorable man. Fact is he killed people with the help of western countries as he led the people out of oppression.
On the opposite time line, our founding fathers where considered terrorist by the crown, which eventually led to bloodshed as well.
So Im not sure that using examples of any person or group using force to fight oppression is a very good example.
Soon now in this country the same thing take place.
You can replace the words religion, and put in its place the Constitution, which really comes from religious law to begin with with. You can also replace the government with term such as 'evil' or 'wicked'.
There you go, same ole story, different verse.
In fact one can put whatever semantical expression they would like on the circumstance, it still doesnt change the facts about what is taking place on the ground.
Being corrupt is no excuse for any nation to do that to common people, and children.
Same can be said about the US and all of its War Crimes and Genocide, Clinton in Rwanda and Bush in Iraq(soon to be Iran), and Afghanistan.
Do you mean that because the leaders of these countries(controlled by the US) are terrible people, that the common people should suffer the consequences?
Suffer War Crimes, Genocide, and Human Rights Violations?
And yes, what you described is Gorilla Warfare, and you not being able to realize that is foolish in my opinion.
The Arab people, as a whole, are guilty for allowing this suffering caused by their leaders.
Once again, for the ideologically impaired, Israel is not inflicting "genocide" on Palestine or Beirut.
There is a horrific tit-for-tat struggle in the region between (mostly) religious ideologies that keeps resulting in gruesome death for culprits, perps and innocent victims.
The scenario goes like this...
Some militant group will score some weapons, like rocket launchers, and get a plan going. They'll sneak over the rooftops of some houses and they'll fire these weapons at Israeli settlements. The Israeli military, being fired upon, will blow up the building the militants were hiding in. Innocent people (who may or may not have given permission to the militants) get killed. Human rights groups take pictures of charred bodies and demand that Israel stop these horrific "genocidal" practices.
Innocent civilians affected by the Israeli response get angry and become militants, and get a hold of some weapons...
Repeat ad nauseum...
This was going on when we lived in Israel in the 60's, and it still going on today.
That's 50 years of this nonsense, and the one factor that drives its rabidity, is religion.
You have obviously not read the description of the photographs. These are the War Crimes of Israel in Lebanon. The war crimes stem from the use of weapon; which is unknown, but known not to be conventional by the photographic evidence.
Pertaining to Palestine. They have a cement fence around them, that has progressively shrunk over time. They have been killed during this process. Saying that since they retaliate when provoked; while being caged behind a cement fence, then they should be killed off and further entrapped behind a cement fence, is much like since the Iraqi people are firing on the US soldiers; whom are invading a sovereign nation, are in the right to further destroy them and their nation.
What is the definition of Genocide?
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group.
I believe the activities would fall under this definition..
Or or you saying that all the evidence, footage, and dead reporters, men woman and children(whom are not enemy combatants) that have died, all this evidence does not show DELIBERATE, SYSTEMATIC, in WHOLE or PART?
Who has the army?
Who has the control?
Who has the machinery?
Who has the money?
You just said a person climbing over roofs with a rocket launcher. Thats gorilla warfare fool....
Any time a group of people are employing gorilla warfare, that is because there is no other option, and historically it has been employed against an oppressor. Such as this case.
Lets go further than that.
Article 2 of the Convention defines genocide as
...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
– Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[1]
Article 3 defines the crimes that can be punished under the convention:
: (a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d ) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide.
– Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 3
For the purpose of this Statute, "crime against humanity" means any of the following acts when committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against any civilian population, with knowledge of the attack[13]:
(a) Murder;
(b) Extermination;
(c) Enslavement;
(d) Deportation or forcible transfer of population;
(e) Imprisonment or other severe deprivation of physical liberty in violation of fundamental rules of international law;
(f) Torture;
(g) Rape, sexual slavery, enforced prostitution, forced pregnancy, enforced sterilization, or any other form of sexual violence of comparable gravity;
(h) Persecution against any identifiable group or collectivity on political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, gender as defined in paragraph 3, or other grounds that are universally recognized as impermissible under international law, in connection with any act referred to in this paragraph or any crime within the jurisdiction of the Court;
(i) Enforced disappearance of persons;
(j) The crime of apartheid;
(k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.
The Rome Statute Explanatory Memorandum states that crimes against humanity
are particularly odious offences in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of one or more human beings. They are not isolated or sporadic events, but are part either of a government policy (although the perpetrators need not identify themselves with this policy) or of a wide practice of atrocities tolerated or condoned by a government or a de facto authority. However, murder, extermination, torture, rape, political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice. Isolated inhumane acts of this nature may constitute grave infringements of human rights, or depending on the circumstances, war crimes, but may fall short of meriting the stigma attaching to the category of crimes under discussion. On the other hand, an individual may be guilty of crimes against humanity even if he perpetrates one or two of the offences mentioned above, or engages in one such offence against only a few civilians, provided those offences are part of a consistent pattern of misbehavior by a number of persons linked to that offender (for example, because they engage in armed action on the same side or because they are parties to a common plan or for any similar reason.) Consequently when one or more individuals are not accused of planning or carrying out a policy of inhumanity, but simply of perpetrating specific atrocities or vicious acts, in order to determine whether the necessary threshold is met one should use the following test: one ought to look at these atrocities or acts in their context and verify whether they may be regarded as part of an overall policy or a consistent pattern of an inhumanity, or whether they instead constitute isolated or sporadic acts of cruelty and wickedness.[2]
I can go on.
Your pictures are not evidence of genocide. Your opinions are not considered by anyone to be proof of anything other then your bias.
Your beliefs are nothing but your beliefs.
The Palestinians do not have a cement fence surrounding them. Your statement to the contrary is further prrof of an agenda driven state of mind on your part.
There has been no systematic nor deliberate destruction of the Palestinian people. Your statement to the contrary fits in well with such statement on antisemitic web sites. No one here wonders why.
This bloodshed will continue.
So what can be done? Force the Jews to leave their homeland or keep killing Arabs in retalitory raids until they give up?
If American ideals are looked at as an example, there will be very few Arabs living in the area.
Did he get banned? I didn't like him much as Chris Berel, but he was starting to grow on me as Ibrahim. Why do I have to get used to a whole new screen name? What did he do that was that bad?
Tom Mullen
www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson
Ibrahim and JacobW, aka the artist formerly know as Berel, may also "have a dream" if you catch my drift
....(see Ihaveadream account -- recently created, cough, cough............)
Reason why church and state should be separated. I would argue that the subject of religion has not place in politics at all. This sneakily subversive tactic is the reason why the American people have been brainwashed into supporting the actions of Israel for so long.
The American people have always supported the re-establishment of the Jewish homeland and the state of Israel since its reincarnation. Brainwashed? It seems that is what you want to do to the American people.
"The American people have always supported the re-establishment of the Jewish homeland and the state of Israel since its reincarnation."
Of what I said.
"It seems that is what you want to do to the American people."
"what" and how?
Israel as a nation has nothing to do with the Jewish religion either.
While Israel continues to kill Palestinians who are just defending themselves and their existence(you know its called genocide), you will continue to go down with their ship, because the pulpit says your going to hell if you dont.
And it probably makes you mad as well that I disagree with mixing politics and religion.
I just dont want to live under a theocracy.
http://rense.com/general82/deser.htm
As palestinians are not now, and have almost never been, "just defending themselves and their existence" your statement doesn't wash. Retaliating after another palestinian genocidal attack (using your definition) is well within the rules of International law and no one without a specific agenda would dare call that genocide.
I do not agree with mixing politics and religion. But as long as the vast majority of americans, including well educated Americans insist on assisting Israel, I will bow to their democratic desires, as it certainly does not infringe on the rights of what might be termed a rather antisemitic and pathetic minority.
"But as long as the vast majority of americans, including well educated Americans insist on assisting Israel, I will bow to their democratic desires,"
An American bowing to another nations desires.
Traitor!
I've read comments like yours on many antisemitic websites. Didn't think I'd read it here.
America has supported the re-emergence of the Jewish state in the Middle east, officially, for about 170 years.
That would make it as American as apple pie.
Seems that those who desire the opposite could be deemed traitor to American ideals and tradition.
And the Jewish religion are two separate entities.
"I've read comments like yours on many antisemitic websites."
Im sure you have.
"Seems that those who desire the opposite could be deemed traitor to American ideals and tradition."
No, lets look at what you said:
"But as long as the vast majority of americans, including well educated Americans insist on assisting Israel, I will bow to their democratic desires,"
First of all you make it appear that "assisting Israel" is the same as "bowing to their democratic desires"
Israel is as guilty of war crimes as the United States. People think that Israel is ONLY made up of Jewish people. That is a incorrect assumption. So, why does the Jewish element present itself in your argument, when you KNOW that I am talking about Israel as a nation, specifically its leaders, who are publicly documented as being complicit along with the US.
Fallacy of logic is the same device in which the enemy of America uses to trick the people out of their Sovereignty.
There is no reason to support Israel and their Genocidal quest for power no more than their is a reason to support the US in the same endeavor.
You say I brainwash people, I say you are condoning actions of Criminals, that have and are committing war crimes against Humanity.
Its Genocide.
And you are a traitor against Humanity for supporting it.
"But as long as the vast majority of americans, including well educated Americans insist on assisting Israel, I will bow to their democratic desires,"
First of all you make it appear that "assisting Israel" is the same as "bowing to their democratic desires"
Not so. Assisting Israel is merely bowing to the democratically chosen desire of the American people.
Israel is as guilty of war crimes as the United States.
I don't know what war crimes you are speaking of. Your generalization is equivilant to ignorance. please specify.
"People think that Israel is ONLY made up of Jewish people. That is a incorrect assumption."
Indeed, you assumption is incorrect. Most Americans know that israel is only 75% Jewish and that all citizens have equal rights. They also know that that is not true in the surrounding racist and aparthied Arab nations.
"So, why does the Jewish element present itself in your argument, when you KNOW that I am talking about Israel as a nation, specifically its leaders, who are publicly documented as being complicit along with the US."
Because I KNOW that you are not talking about Israel as a nation.
"Fallacy of logic is the same device in which the enemy of America uses to trick the people out of their Sovereignty. ". You were tricked out of your bowl of lentils? you poor little redhead. Is that where your hatred stems?
"There is no reason to support Israel and their Genocidal quest for power no more than their is a reason to support the US in the same endeavor. "
No one is supporting Israel in a quest that does not exist.
"You say I brainwash people"
I say you desire to brainwash people. You have neither the education nor innate ability to do so. Only a poorly educated fool would believe anything you have written.
"I say you are condoning actions of Criminals, that have and are committing war crimes against Humanity."
I say you are incorrect.
"Its Genocide."
Its not.
But you are a traitor against Humanity for suggesting it and not attacking France, Syria, Sudan, North Korea, Iran, and other nations who have or had (in the very recent past) supported actual genocide.
The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.
Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide:
1) the mental element, meaning the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such", and
2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called "genocide."
Article III described five punishable forms of the crime of genocide: genocide; conspiracy, incitement, attempt and complicity.
Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and
Punishment of Genocide (For full text click here)
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(d) Attempt to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide. "
It is a crime to plan or incite genocide, even before killing starts, and to aid or abet genocide: Criminal acts include conspiracy, direct and public incitement, attempts to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide.
Punishable Acts The following are genocidal acts when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence:
Killing members of the group includes direct killing and actions causing death.
Causing serious bodily or mental harm includes inflicting trauma on members of the group through widespread torture, rape, sexual violence, forced or coerced use of drugs, and mutilation.
Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group includes the deliberate deprivation of resources needed for the group’s physical survival, such as clean water, food, clothing, shelter or medical services. Deprivation of the means to sustain life can be imposed through confiscation of harvests, blockade of foodstuffs, detention in camps, forcible relocation or expulsion into deserts.
Prevention of births includes involuntary sterilization, forced abortion, prohibition of marriage, and long-term separation of men and women intended to prevent procreation.
Forcible transfer of children may be imposed by direct force or by fear of violence, duress, detention, psychological oppression or other methods of coercion. The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines children as persons under the age of 18 years.
Genocidal acts need not kill or cause the death of members of a group. Causing serious bodily or mental harm, prevention of births and transfer of children are acts of genocide when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence.
The law protects four groups - national, ethnical, racial or religious groups.
A national group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by a common country of nationality or national origin.
An ethnical group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common cultural traditions, language or heritage.
A racial group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by physical characteristics.
A religious group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common religious creeds, beliefs, doctrines, practices, or rituals.
Key Terms
The crime of genocide has two elements: intent and action. “Intentional” means purposeful. Intent can be proven directly from statements or orders. But more often, it must be inferred from a systematic pattern of coordinated acts.
Intent is different from motive. Whatever may be the motive for the crime (land expropriation, national security, territorrial integrity, etc.), if the perpetrators commit acts intended to destroy a group, even part of a group, it is genocide.
The phrase "in whole or in part" is important. Perpetrators need not intend to destroy the entire group. Destruction of only part of a group (such as its educated members, or members living in one region) is also genocide. Most authorities require intent to destroy a substantial number of group members – mass murder. But an individual criminal may be guilty of genocide even if he kills only one person, so long as he knew he was participating in a larger plan to destroy the group.
And its not just the so called brothers of Israel:
Israel/Lebanon: End Indiscriminate Strikes on Civilians
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/08/02/lebano13902.htm
Israel's Crimes against Palestinians: War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity, Genocide
http://www.mediamonitors.net/francis7.html
Spanish court examines war crimes case against Israeli military brass
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9507
Amnesty International details Israeli war crimes in Lebanon
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/aug2006/amne-a25.shtml
Morocco: Peretz charged with 'war crimes'
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3288299,00.html
Israeli Atrocity on Gaza Civilians
http://www.juancole.com/2008/01/israeli-atrocity-on-gaza-civilians.html
Israel Doesn't Need 'GasChambers' ToCommit Genocide
http://www.rense.com/general60/geno.htm
Israel and Genocide in Croatia
http://www.croatianhistory.net/etf/israel.html
Genocide by Israel in the Ghetto of Gaza
http://www.williambowles.info/isrl-pal/2006/0706/genocide_in_gaza.html
Israel Helps Fatah Men Escape Hamas, Humiliation for the Israeli Collaborators
http://pedulipalestina.blogspot.com/
12 Ways to Deny A Genocide
http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/12waystodenygenocide.html
"But as long as the vast majority of americans, including well educated Americans insist on assisting Israel, I will bow to their democratic desires,"
First of all you make it appear that "assisting Israel" is the same as "bowing to their democratic desires"
Not so. Assisting Israel is merely bowing to the democratically chosen desire of the American people.
Israel is as guilty of war crimes as the United States."
If 100% of Americans supported Israel it would not change the fact that Israel and the United States are guilty of war crimes. The US funds Israel. Israel kill innocent life, does little Johnny get picture now?
"I don't know what war crimes you are speaking of. Your generalization is equivilant to ignorance. please specify."
I know you dont, its called denial, and a well ingrained mental construct.
"Because I KNOW that you are not talking about Israel as a nation."
Ahhh, the real point of why you commented. Typical.
Your leading. Its a fallacy.
"I say you are condoning actions of Criminals, that have and are committing war crimes against Humanity."
I say you are incorrect."
With a 'real rebuttal then prove it is not.
Try to intimidate me or frighten me with the big bad Anti Semite label. It doesnt work on me puss the cat.
Fire away and away, its the same ole shit that your type attack with, and cover up your miss deeds with.
The majority of the world know it, just to weak to say anything.
Your supporting Genocide, and the likes of you, and that is one of the reasons why Ron Paul wants to stop supporting you, and your blood thirsty vamps.
Israel is nothing more than a bitch for the US to go and do its dirty work for in the middle east.
Oh, I suppose you didnt notice that Israel is now going to attack Iran...
I think that is telling.
The leaders in Israel just like the US are corrupt and need to go. They need to be held accountable for their war crimes.
But Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and a host of other Islamic and Arab nations are. Even France appears to be implicated. It is a wonder how you can support those genocidal countries and still only rage at teeny tiny Israel and its misdimeanors.
Again, you have provided no proof that Israel is guilty of commiting war crimes. Your opinion is strongly laced by your bigotry. Your agenda shines right through all of your false arguments. There is no need to rebut your false arguments. They stand defeated by their own weight.
Of interesting note is your condemnation of israel helping Islamic arabs escape certain murder at the hands of hamas terrorists. Any hope you had to claim any humanitarian impulse was tossed in the cesspool that resembles your mind.
You sick war mongering traitor of Humanity.
Can't say that I'm sorry to see you, and your delusional agenda-driven comments, depart
Hates America: http://breakthematrix.com/Terrorism/Israels-False-Flag-Attack-on-the-USS...
While your bowing to them; whether indirectly or not, they still have killed Americans and got away with it..
Im going to expand this little thread here, and everyday dump information on you.
Never mind the fact that you are the one who brought up the Jewish element to begin with.
I have posted some articles condemning Pakistan, does that mean I am referring to the majority of Muslims living in that country?
Of course not. Again your logic is shit, bring something else substantial to the table. Like evidence pointing contrary to what I have stated about Israel, that they are in FACT 'not' committing Genocide.
We bring to the attention of Global Research readers photographic evidence of Israeli sponsored atrocities.
Charred and mutilated bodies following Israeli air strikes:
While these gruesome images have been released by acredited news agencies including Reuters, Agence France Press and the Associated Press, they are casually dismissed, they are not considered as "reliable evidence" of war crimes.
There is, in this regard, a deliberate media coverup of Israeli sponsored crimes and atrocities. Civilian casualties continue to be presented in media reports as "collateral damage".
Laser guided missiles and "smart bombs" are very precise. They rarely miss their target. When residential buildings, schools or hospitals are targetted, this means civilians will be killed. These actions, ordered by Israel's IDF are quite deliberate. They are carried out with meticulous acuracy.
The atrocities in these pictures are beyond description. Israel has being using, quite deliberately, deadly "weapons of mass destruction" in the real sense of the word against Lebanese civilians.
Israel is involved in crimes against humanity and the so-called international community unreservedly supports Israel's right to "self defense".
Moreover, in providing a green light to Israel to continue its criminal bombings for another week, the Bush adminstration is directly responsible for these atrocities.
No compassion on the part of Western leaders. "War is good for business". The killings are for profit and political gain.
The entire Western meda is silent, focussing ad nauseam on the alleged terrorist actions of Hizbollah, its "links to Iran and Syria", the rescue of Western expatriates, etc. But not a word on the destruction of an entire nation. What Israel is doing, in a very concrete sense, is "wiping Lebanon off the face of the map", to use a familiar expression.
By destroying its civilian infrastructure and killing its people, Israel "questions Lebanon's right to exist" as a sovereign nation.
Is this what is called "the clash of civilisations"?
We are dealing with the criminalisation of the Western media. If atrocities of this nature are not reported or acknowledged, what are the implications? The end of "civilised society"?
There can be no double standards. If G-8 leaders and the UN Secretary General do not speak out explicitly, not only in condemning but in taking concrete actions against Israel, they too are collectively responsible for crimes against humanity.
It is time for the real war criminals, the real terrorists to be prosecuted. Extensive sanctions should be adopted against the Israeli government.
Political leaders and diplomats who endorse the Israeli sponsored killings must understand that they too can be prosecuted within their respective jurisdictions.
Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, 21 July 2006
Do you know what kind of weapons causes this damage?
Israeli aggression on Lebanon
July 2006
Do you know what kind of weapons causes this damage?
Beirut
July 21st, 2006
I left the office early last night ; at midnight.
There was only one devastating picture yesterday : that of two people who were killed in air strikes on Akkar,(the poorer area) in the north, late Wednesday night.
Both corps were black, both were dismembered , both were "weird". I don't think it matters anymore to try to prove that Israel is using unconventional , forbidden weapons .. that would only prove that it should have used "allowed" weapons. Who cares, people are dying anyway. And whatever weapons are being used , the pollution they're creating will kill the survivors from cancer later.
The rest of the pictures were less devastating, conventional : demolished houses, wiped out villages and towns, more refugees , some of them starving, lovely babes on board of US marines ships and colored people from poor countries lining up in front of embassies hoping they will get them out of this hell.
The really devastating pictures will came later , much later, some day when all this will stop maybe we'll be able to visit the ruins of whole villages. But even then it might be too late : how long does it take corps buried under rubbles to disintegrate and vanish ?
Anyway , so I left the office early and went home with my friend who's staying with us because his house is in the southern suburb of Beirut. I was a bit worried because my brother in law , Khalil's brother, was there too and I was wondering if I'd be able to manage space for everybody to sleep comfortably.
Raed, my brother in law, and his eight-month pregnant wife , had left Jebshit in the south yesterday morning. They reached Beirut by 5:00 pm.
They had crossed a bridge in Habbouche who'd been targeted only once . It was destroyed but cars were still able to find a way through. Half an hour after Raed had crossed the bridge, it was bombed again and completely demolished this time (sounds like an Indian movie, right?). Of course Raed knew nothing about that , he trying to make out to Saida, then up to Baakline in the Shouf then way down back to Beirut.
When I got home , I asked if they had dinner. I was a bit ashamed because my fridge is empty. I hadn't had time lately to buy grocery and I'm "heavily" relying on milk to feed Kinda, my daughter. "Dinner ?" Raed asked , "we had 9 shawarma sandwiches, Rana (his wife) and I. Today was the first time we eat in 3 days".
He tells stories about Jebshit. Sad ones. No electricity , no water, no roads, no food, no newspapers. Some villages even run out of batteries, so they can't even listen to the news on the radio. Funny, isn't it, that in Beirut we know more about what's going on than the people concerned. Raed only knew they blew the Habbouche bridge when he listened to the news after he reached Beirut.
I have to admit to all of you that I have very mixed, weird, sick feelings about all this.
The first three or four days were very strange. I was in Beirut , sitting in an air conditioned office, watching the devastation of the South and the southern suburb. It felt like when you watch news and pictures from Palestine and Iraq. You feel frustrated and concerned, but you know there's not much you can do for them, for mere geographical reasons, at least that's the excuse one uses to comfort one's self. But "this" was happening a few kilometers away and I'd still be sitting here watching.
The other weird feeling was related to the first one: I felt that I was paying my dues. The guilt feeling I've always had toward Palestine, and later towards Iraq, has diminished a little bit. I felt like hugging Palestine and Iraq and screaming to them "We're with you, like you: left alone, suffering and part of your cause, a great one."
Sometimes I just flip and cry. Cry because I'm so helpless and angry. And most of the time I turn on my "automatic engine on". I wake up at six , come to the office, report hideous stories , feel nothing about them , do my job : double check , choose "fantastic" headlines , pick up the "best" pictures, try to be as professional as one can be. I do that for 12 to 14 hours. I'd then go home, pick up my daughter from my mother's house , and go to bed at one. The Israelis love to start their raids at ten past one, sometimes at five past one. That's when I'm in bed. Every night, when they start, I rush out to the balcony to see where the smoke comes from. I live on the twelfth floor. Every night , when I go out , I see the moon , my lovely moon , shyly hiding behind the clouds caused by the fires that are surrounding my Beirut.
This morning , I stayed home till 12:00. I played with Kinda. My poor little baby. She doesn't understand what's going on. She keeps asking about her cousins. She looks at their pictures and keeps repeating their names; as if it was an exercise not to forget them. I tell her they're in the mountains, and that we can't go there. When they call us, she refuses to talk to them. She thinks they abounded her.
The first time she heard the bombing, she rushed to my arms asking me if this was fireworks . I said " no , this is boum boum , ha ha ha " and started laughing. So now, every time she hears the bombing she starts singing "boum boum " and she laughs.
I left her at noon. She was sleepy, and wouldn't go to bed. It took a few minutes to realize the reason : she wanted to fall asleep in my arms. Before July the 12th, I would not move at her bed time. I'd put her on my lap , sing to her until she sleeps. For 10 days now, she's been sleeping in the stroller at my mother's house: only to guaranty that I will come pick her up when I finish working.
Two last notes: I feel ashamed talking about my daughter while other people's kids were either killed or lack of food and shelter. But I feel so guilty towards her.
Second : to all the Israelis who have been sending their comments on what I write , I say this : I agree with you , we are savages , blood lovers, we don't have feelings, and we actually enjoy looking at the pictures of victims. Actually , each time we see one , we party and dance. And in my writings, I'm only pretending to have feelings , and being pathetically sentimental only to bluff. Here, I'm admitting it. And to all my friends in the west : don't believe anything I say , cause I'm only viciously using you and trying to turn you into sympathizers of fundamental terrorism.
Hanady
Beirut
July 19, 2006
The attached pictures are hideously gruesome, but you have to look at them . Help me find out what kind of weapons cause this kind of dismemberment and mutation.
What kind of weapons cause this kind of damage? Do you know? Could you find out?
None of this is confirmed, or could be here and now. However, there are growing doubts that Israel might be using internationally forbidden weapons in its current aggression against Lebanon. News from "Southern Medical Center", a hospital in Saida( in South Lebanon) are not good. Dr. Bashir Sham, member of "French Association of Cardiovascular Surgeons", explains that the way the corps look when they reach the hospital, especially those of the air strikes in Doueir and Rmayleih, is very abnormal." One might think they were burnt , but their colour is dark , they're inflated, and they have a terrible smell" All this , and the hair is not burnt nor do the bodies bleed.
Eight of the victims of an air strike on Rmayleih bridge, near Saida, on the 15th of July, were transferred to Sham's hospital.
Sham says that only chemical poisonous substances "lead to instant death without bleeding".
And what indicates the power of these substances, is the high and unusual of number of dead victimes, compared to the number of injuries.
Sham thinks that whatever "abnormal " substance causing these features might penetrate through the skin, or another explanation would be that the missiles contained toxic gas that stopped the proper functioning of the nervous system, and led to blood clotting.
These toxic materials cause immediate death, within two to thirty minutes, according to Sham, who admits that these doubts can't be proven, not even by an autopsy.
The director of the same medical center, Ali Mansour, says that due to the strong smell of the corps, he couldn't breath properly for at least 12 hours after the corps were handled.
He explains that the center received eight bodies from Rmeileh last Monday, and none of them was bleeding.
Mansour tells us the hospital wrote to both the commissioner of the European Union for Foreign Affaires Javier Solana, and the United Nations Secretary general Kofi Anan. He said that dr Sham will communicate his doubts to the Doctors Order in Lebanon.
CAN YOU HELP US , PLEASE!
Hanady
Beirut
A body killed by a burning object lies in a Beirut suburb July 17- Reuters
A Lebanese firefighter extinguishes the charred body of a Lebanese truck driver who was killed when Israeli planes attacked the port in Beirut July 17 - AP
A member of the Lebanese Red Cross walks past a badly burnt body in Beirut's port, which was targeted by Israeli warplanes, July 17 - Reuters
A member of the Lebanese Red Cross walks past a badly burnt body in Beirut's port, which was targeted by Israeli warplanes
A member of the Lebanese Red Cross walks past a badly burnt body in Beirut's port, which was targeted by Israeli warplanes-2.
Lebanese firefighters try to extinguish the fire while the dismembered and burnt corpses of two Lebanese civilians killed in an Israeli air raid lie on the ground at the port in Beirut
Lebanese men remove a recovered body of a man from the back of a vehicle in Beirut July 17- Reuters.jpg
Lebanese Red Cross members remove the dismembered and burnt corpses of two Lebanese civilians killed in an Israeli air raid at the port in Beirut 17 July
Lebanese Red Cross members remove the dismembered and burnt corpses of two Lebanese civilians killed in an Israeli air raid at the port in Beirut.
look at his right eye - Lebanese citizens gather around a man who was killed by shrapnel from an explosion in Kfarshima, near Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, July 17 -AP
look at the foot - beirut prot july 17 - Reuters
Sidon
A Lebanese medic carries the body of a young girl, in a refrigerated truck used as a makeshift morgue, in the port city of Sidon, Lebanon, Monday, July 17 - AP
A Medic inspects burned bodies of Lebanese civilians who were attacked as they passed by a bridge that was targeted in north Saida, southern Lebanon, July 17 - Reuters
Tyr
A badly injured Lebanese civilian is seen at a hospital following Israeli air strikes on a house in the southern city of Tyre, 17 July - AFP
A Lebanese rescue worker gathers the remains of a woman from the rubble of residential buildings hit by the Israeli bombardement in the southern Lebanese city of Tyre, 18 July - AFP
An 18-month-old Lebanese child lies dead 17 July on a hospital bed in Saida eight hours after being injured yesterday in an Israeli air attack in Tyre - AFP
Lebanese man that was injured and burned by Israeli attacks on Tyre, lies in a hospital in south Lebanon July 15 - Reuters
The corpse of a dead man lies admist the rubble from devastating Israeli air strikes in Tyre, south Lebanon, 16 July - AFP
The corpse of a Lebanese civilian lies amidst the rubble following a devastating Israeli air strike in Tyre, south Lebanon, 16 July
Rmayleh
A civil defense member transports the corpse of a Lebanese civilian killed in an Israeli air raid that targeted the Rmeyleh bridge near Saida 17 July afp.
A Lebanese medic carries the body of a young girl, in a refrigerated truck used as a makeshift morgue, as another body lies covered, in the port city of Sidon, Lebanon, Monday, July 17
Civil defence rescuers carry the body of a woman away from a civilian car that was struck by an Israeli warplane missile- rmayleih juy 17 - AP
Drivers carry away Lebanese Ali Wahid after he was seriously wounded in his car, while he was driving past a bridge when was struck by an Israeli warplane missile- rmayleh july 17 ap.
Lebanese Red Cross members cover the burnt corpse of a Lebanese civilian killed in an Israeli air raid that targeted the Rmeyleh bridge in Saida 17 July AFP.
look at his face - A 7-year-old Lebanese boy fights for his life on a hospital bed in Saida 17 July 2006 after being injured in an Israeli air raid - AFP
Marwahin
A badly charred and mutilated body lies on the ground after an Israeli missile hit a van carrying passengers on a road in southern Lebanon, July 15, - Reuters
A body of a man from the southern village of Marwahin, who was killed along with 17 others near the village of Shamaa
A United Nations medic holds a body that was badly charred and destroyed after an Israeli missile hit a van carrying passengers on a road in southern Lebanon, July 15 - Reuters.
KILLED ON THE SAME ROAD IN THE SOUTH JULY 15 - REUTERS
Lebanese civil defence member carries the corpse of a young girl from the southern village of Marwahin
MARWA Marwa Abdallah, who survived Saturday's attack on a van in Tyre where twenty people where killed IN HOSPITAL JULY 16 - REUTERS.
MARWAHIN (SOUTH ) JULY 15 - AFP
MARWAHIN (SOUTH ) JULY 15 - REUTERS
Zebdine
A Lebanese Red Cross staff collects human remains following an Israeli air raid on Zebdine village (south )JULY 16 AFP
Teir Harfa
TEIR HAFRA 1 (SOUTH) JULY 15 - AP
TEIR HAFRA 2 SOUTH) JULY 15 - AP
TEIR HAFRA 3(SOUTH) JULY 15 - AP
TEIR HAFRA 4 (SOUTH) JULY 15 - AP
TEIR HAFRA 5 (SOUTH ) JULY 15 - AP
TEIR HAFRA 6 (SOUTH ) JULY 15 AP
Bekaa
look at the eye- Issam Mostafa, a 3-year-old Lebanese boy, rests at a hospital in Shtora in the Bekaa valley 17 July afp.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060721...
There is your nasty evidence of WAR CRIMES
You Humanity hating traitor.(R)
"A member of the Lebanese Red Cross walks past a badly burnt body in Beirut's port, which was targeted by Israeli warplanes-2."
You just pick up crap from antisemitic websites because you think, unlike you, they do their homework?
Not a single person in the photo has a RC insignia. In fact, they are all in military clothing.
But you can't get everyone to love you.
As in America, there are racist hate-mongers, such as yourself, who do not respect and admire Israel.
Thankfully, there are about 280 million Americans who do not hate Israel.
It is a shame that there are 20 million misguided idiots who feel otherwise.
But, o well.
Use such rhetoric and terminology.