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Take a look at this post. http://www.breakthematrix.com/node/10140
Out of 8 responses only one is legit. The rest are spam, gobbledygook or Arabic ? text.
At one time BTM was a great website with a real mission. But it seems it has deteriorated into trash talk and spam. What a shame!
Been to WYoming. Jackson Hole, The Grand Tetons.
I am totally jealous but trying to fight off the negativity as I type. : )
I hope to see Wyoming again before I croak.
The eye of G_d is watching us....
I haven't been to BTM in awhile.
hey my friend poulianna.
and i have read plenty from Claire before. especially in her typing battles with "Chris".
AdamAdamR....I used to watch Monty Python in my younger years when it was on public television via the BBC. You can go to YouTube and get some clips from their movies "Holy Grail" or "Life of Brian" (1 of my all time favorites).
since i did watch Monty Python, "in my younger years", That might just make me older than some of the other "sweeties" here.
Betsy Ross you sound pretty upset over personal tribulations with legalities. This great country of Ours has for the most part, always been run by lawyers. Which makes "Dr." Ron Paul kind of unusual.
Abortion was brought up, and all I can say is, "Religion and Politics DO NOT mix".
BTM=Trevor Lyman and Shelly Roche. You can find out about them on their bios.
hey TranceAm.... I still see your name in an almost totally non existant chat room. You do type some good shtuff. Please keep up the good work.
No, I am not being paid.
Please support S604 FRB Sunshine Act 2009.
Well, you fools can come up with whatever esoteric b.s. you want about why you're "doing this." I'm in it for the money. If you don't like my capitalist intentions, then go register as a Democrat and jump on board with MoveOn and TrueMajority and those jackasses. :)
Betsy, I'd suggest that instead of spending all your time typing out those long screeds on this site, you go out and find a job. Sounds to me like your problems are thanks to your own inability to get up from the mud puddle they threw you in and get on with it.
I've been there too, and it's no fun, but you can't just lay there and wallow in it. Get up and throw the mud back. That's what I did. There are IRS agents that fear my name and Utah's Attorney General as well as Senator Orrin Hatch have feelings beyond hate for my countenance.
F-EM
I moved to Wyoming. The last of the Free States.
--Aaron
The Militant Libertarian
http://www.MilitantLibertarian.org
Does the site receive taxpayer funding of any sort? Or simply exists on the ad revenues and trinket sales? Is it publicly funded? If so, that would make it actually a "public" website, and not a private one at all.
So are there "grant monies" as an "educational" site involved in its operation?
Betsy Ross
Spam relates to advertising, does it not? And if you are relating to posting, isn't this site advertised under key words such as "Constitution" and "freedom."
Or is it just those that disagree with many of the posters here just what the "intent" of the founders with respect to freedom and liberty that you label as "spam" in your "liberal" interpretations?
Betsy Ross
When assclowns are posting free anal sex ads on topics and various and sundry ads on nearly everything we can safely say it has nothing to do with free speech. This website is an obvious easy target. Posting here is becoming a joke as often the only other comments on your posted topic are by some advertising chimp who places and ad there for jewelry or payday loans and who knows what else.
Adam is making reference to SPAM may be the wrong verbiage, but I know what he is talking about as do most of the other 40 or so people who bother to post on the site and actually read, you of course also being one of them.
Is it on purpose by PTB that do not like what we say or is it that this site is a sitting duck? I don't know.
are you paid for this?
Of course, after a corrupted court action in a Scottsdale Court also stripped me of $17,000 in legal fees for a small claims court case in which my HOA had been overcharging me for over 12 years in their non-credited taxes or "assessments." Extra property taxes, in other words. Where the judge allowed to defense counsels in to fight me over a small claims action for the return of the $2,000 the had overcharged me. Where the defense counsel for the HOA actually made up evidence in order to "win" his case with the assistance of the Farmers Insurance counsel in collusion.
Shysters in referring to most "corporate" lawyers doesn't even begin to describe the behavior I experienced in that courtroom. Criminal fraud more like it. And the hired an outside and unelected judge to hear my case, because it was cut and dried since I had all the receipts.
Theft, actually, pure and simple. "Under color of law," and that is just how far the legal "profession" which is no longer a profession but an industry has sunk now in this country.
I ought to know. I worked in it for many years. And for corporate lawyers.
Betsy Ross
Do a web search. Look up "John Tate" and also "Wal-Mart" stores and I worked for John for a number of years, during the Jimmy Hoffa era in the 70's up until the 80's. And then worked in the offices of the corporate counsel for Charlie Keating in Arizona.
Betsy Ross
I wish, but I guess you haven't read any of my articles then, have you? Since I am an ex-Arizona resident, now political refugee, and quite homeless due to both the mortgage crisis (an Indy Mac loan from the State of California in which a rider was illegally forged with my initials, and based upon a LIBOR market escalating market rate, taken out after I had a property tax increase I could not afford, and also escalating property insurance rates that went off the charts also due to the border situation), and also three time illegal immigrant theft victim (two attempted auto, one identity theft at the local car wash where they got my credit card and PIN number from the employee surveillance cameras, and went through about $2,000 in less than five hours at the local Wal-Marts).
And political corruption now going on in Arizona at the hands of Sheriff Joe and Phil Gordon, with helicopter search parties out every Friday and Saturday night searching the local washes for the drug cartel members.
So, I guess you haven't been reading any of the articles, or they just didn't register?
Betsy Ross
If you haven't made up from what you read, what subjects are touched,
that most of us aren't payed, but are in it (Whatever it is.) for some greater good for all,
Then what can anyone answer to you to your constant accusations?
If the proof ain't in the pudding that you see, then what can words tell you, as supplied by the pudding makers about their motives..
IN it for the money? The mighty buck, that according to some (And those are the positive minded.)
in a little while will be less worth then toilet paper. Consider this, If one would be in it for the buck, then one shouldn't spread messages that undermine the value by showing its real (descending value.) to keep the faith in all other readers up.
I have seen not many replies that are posted to make a buck beyond the spammers, that seem to think that if you are politically active or write thoughts, you will also go to the first Jewelry site offered to you. And aw god, its not like you can't buy viagra anywere else or it isn't offered anywhere else on the web. Now political agenda is a different story. But money?
Come on sweetie, you know better then that.
--
Don't Think, Act!
Don't Question, Follow!
And don't bother telling an enraged lynch mob with a raging bloodlust, the truth.
Call me old fashioned, or a 1960's era feminist, but calling an older woman - which is clear that I am, and you also are aware - "sweetie" actually could be construed an insult, and also wonder just who your parents were, that they left out manners somewhere in the process of rearing you.
Betsy Ross
This is a commercial website is it not? And also facilitated by an attorney and "corporate" lawyer apparently, and sponsored somewhat by Fox. And there are tons of ads on this site, other than the ad spammers for both products and merchandise.
And also knowing something about the government and governmental grants, as a supposed citizens group with a broad scope "educational" agenda, would also qualify for grant monies since many, many lawyer headed websites for various "minority" claimed "civil" rights groups are funded by the taxpayers through federal grants.
So whether it is supposition or not, I would hesitate to guess that there is some federal backing somewhere to this site, and that there definitely are paid bloggers on it that also pounce on articles that actually belie the agenda of the group as one of which ascribes to Dr. Paul's Constitutional stances on many issues. He is, after all, also vehemently pro-life, and also anti-unconstitutional wars. Although his rendering of the commerce clause is totally off base as the Boston Tea Party actually proves - that although freedom of global commerce and trade was their beliefs, that freedom did not come without a price. And taxation in import taxes was that price, and export taxes in order to pay for the functions of government. And he does believe in tariffs on trade.
So most of the posters on this site, such as yourself, seem to be either flaming posts for revenue purposes, or confusion of the issues, for those that are lead to it due to its stated advertising of Dr. Paul and his positions. Since you actually are a clear atheist, and also more along the communists beliefs in your positions on trade, as are Claire and many of the others.
And due to the manner in which much of the material I post is responded to, there are a few paid law students on this site, or unpaid. And our law schools today teach anything but "the law." Only judge made case law. Not "the law."
Betsy Ross
>>"He is, after all, also vehemently pro-life"
I think Dr. Paul's position is that legislation regarding abortion should be left to the individual states. Although he might support a federal ban on partial birth abortions, or abortions in the third trimester, he most certainly would not impose a federal ban on all abortions, so I wouldn't call him "vehemently pro life".
>>"his rendering of the commerce clause is totally off base as the Boston Tea Party actually proves"
The Boston Tea Party proves no such thing. That is just a weird idea of yours (although it's most likely not your original idea-- I heard a left wing talk show host going on in the same vein about the Tea Party a couple of days ago, comparing the East India Company to Walmart in an effort to use the history of this country to justify government enforced redistribution of wealth). It is clear to me Dr. Paul understands the Constitution and the words of our founders MUCH better than you do. Have you read his latest book? It might help you understand why we need to reduce the size and scope of government and adopt a free market system.
>>"And our law schools today teach anything but "the law.""
Another book you should read is "The Law" by Frederik Bastiat. It will explain to you why the government regulations and the redistribution of wealth you support are incompatible with liberty and true justice, and are therefore illegitimate. I strongly recommend that book.
We may be at an impasse right now because of your incomplete understanding of the issues. Let's talk about all this again once you have read "The Law" and "The Revolution: A Manifesto" by Ron Paul. They are both quick reads, so I don't think I'm asking too much.
And with respect to your continued misunderstanding about the genesis of the Boston Tea Party, and what it was all about, as I said you do need a review of fourth grade level American history.
And you are incredible. As I said, which of California's propaganda law schools did you go to?
Betsy Ross
And THIS is what my tax money is going for? THIS type of education? It's not only our law schools, but political treason and propaganda is now a commercial business enterprise. Gotta love those corporate lawyers. The word shyster with respect to politicans, and attorneys, has existed now for centuries. And no more applicable than today.
Betsy Ross
Blow it out your ear, Claire. And I asked. Which law school did you go to? Pepperdine, Stanford or UCLA? Because you definitely are a "corporatist," and Dr. Paul is vehemently pro-life, although he is also off on that one. What is needed is the feds to define for Constitutional purposes just when "life" begins so that doctors and women could not be prosecuted for murder for elective abortions.
As far as defining life, it is not a state issue at all. The entire foundation of the Constitution at the federal level is in order to secure "life and liberty."
And no, he doesn't misconstrue the commerce clause. I misspoke, since he does believe in tarriffs on trade. But you do. Since your beliefs are clearly more "corporatism," and the free market has to do with domestic competition, actually. Since we are, after all, a sovereign nation.
So as I said, blow it out your ear....
Betsy Ross
>>"Blow It Out Your Ear, Claire"
Wasn't it you earlier today who was admonishing people to be more polite? Maybe you should follow your own advice :-)
>>"As far as defining life, it is not a state issue at all. The entire foundation of the Constitution at the federal level is in order to secure "life and liberty.""
I agree, and that is why I would say that Dr Paul is not "vehemently pro-life". Vehement pro lifers define the embryo as a person from the moment of conception, and want a federal ban on all abortions, and possibly some methods of contraception such as IUDs and the morning after pill, since they cause the fertilized egg to be expelled. I think Dr Paul would allow the states to determine the legality of abortion, up to a point in gestation when it is clear that the fetus is a person-- and that he believes that point occurs long before the 40th week of pregnancy. I agree with that too. We should not be allowing doctors to hack fully formed and sentient babies to bits or to drive scalpels through their skulls just because they are still in the womb. Nor should babies that are born alive during an abortion be left in a bucket to die. I think that is very legitimately a federal matter, and it should not be up to the states to determine whether those babies have a right not to be killed. They clearly do.
>>"And no, he doesn't misconstrue the commerce clause. I misspoke, since he does believe in tarriffs on trade."
So you do agree with Dr Paul about the commerce clause? That it has been misused by "progressives"? That, contrary to what they believe, the commerce clause does NOT give the federal government permission to regulate or to tax corporations, businesses, or any form of trade within the US? If you look again at my other posts you will see that I have no issue with tariffs for foreign goods, and that I acknowledge that our founders felt tariffs to be the least intrusive way of collecting the money necessary to pay for defense and basic government. I AM against such things as employment legislation, including minimum wage and employment equity laws, other regulations that require corporations to comply with unions, mandatory licensing-- as well as any business or corporate taxes, and any income tax over the maybe 5% that would be required to pay for national defense, police and courts-- if that.
I think that as long as we have a free market for all goods and services within the US, some small amount of import duty on foreign goods is acceptable, especially if the purpose of it is to pay for government and defense. Outright protectionism of American industry against competition from other countries only forces businesses to leave the country and makes us less competitive, so I think that kind of action is counterproductive. As you said, we are a sovereign nation. If we had free markets within the US and friendly trading practices with other countries (as was the founders' ideal-- they did not intend tariffs to be used to discourage trade with other countries, only to raise revenues), we could be great once again.
Anyhow, please do some more reading, lighten up, and do try to be more polite in the future. Rudeness may be de rigueur for the 20 somethings, but it is unbecoming of ladies over 40 like us ;-)
As I mentioned before to TranceAm. We just need to stop bashing one another.... I am baffled with the direction this site has been taking with some of the members and especially the spam
We need to take discussion to the heights of where it belongs. Arguing points, not people. The exchange of ideas, refuting and agreeing amiacably.... civily....graciously....with honest intent for all.
TranceAM you can call me sweetie anytime you want. LOL
:-) poulianna
The eye of G_d is watching us....
It seems that the BTM PTB don't mind though.
What is PTB??? really I don't know... I hope we can get this spam to stop...
poulianna
The eye of G_d is watching us....
Sweetie :-)
The eye of G_d is watching us....