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LaRouche: No Bailout ! "They Will Kill You !

What the Americans will do to those, who try to push a dictatorship down their throats.

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I remember getting off a bus

I remember getting off a bus in downtown Seattle just in time to see a parade of LaRouche supporters scouring the streets with bullhorns and signs. I liked that site.

But when they handed me a La Rouche "Bush's No Exit War" booklet and then asked me for a $4 donation I handed it back to them. Then they handed it to me and told me to read it, along with several others. I didn't really know what to think of LaRouche other than I liked to argue with the guy at the airport that was there for years trying to get LaRouche elected president while he was in prison.

I told the LaRouche supporters thanks for the info and that I would read it, and I read every bit of them, but told them LaRouche didn't stand a chance (looking back thats what people told me of Ron Paul!!!) and that they should focus their effort on ridding ourselves of the two party system and the electoral college which allows it all.

I guess I was right.

WOODMAN Posted by WOODMAN on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 12:42
Its interesting to see even

Its interesting to see even socialists railing against the bailouts. I would think they would be for the Government snatching up private interests. I guess these socialists know how to prioritize. USSA would be worthless if it was plagued by economic catastrophe. Good for them.

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revolutionman Posted by revolutionman on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 10:36
That reminds me of the Liberal

Senator from Michigan (I think) who voted against the Iraq war, only to die in a plane crash with his entire family on board shortly thereafter.

I guess that's what the congressman meant when he said they were under martial law........

AdamAdamR Posted by AdamAdamR on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 06:15
Being a relative newcomer to

Being a relative newcomer to politics I don't recognize this guy, but I admire his passion in speaking out against the bailout.

bandito Posted by bandito on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 05:15
Correlation

I think we should correlate LaRouche's comments with this post:

http://breakthematrix.com/Economy/The-inevitable-collapse-of-the-dollar

We're presently in uncharted waters and it's quite prudent to be prepared for any eventuality.

GaryL Posted by GaryL on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 05:08
Great

This is great info, too bad it comes from LaRouche. Nobody listens to him anymore as he's managed to pinhole himself as a kook and a thief. Oh well.

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MilitantLibertarian Posted by MilitantLibertarian on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 01:55
Rick is right

I actually admire the fighting spirit, because we are on the right side in a fight. However, when you think about it, the situation is this:

Their ideas are bankrupt. Their system is collapsing. Their hold over the minds of the American people is slipping. The only chance they have to hang on for even another decade is to goad us into a fight and have an excuse for martial law.

Better to stand resolutely aside and watch them die. Somebody make some popcorn. :)

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Tom Mullen Posted by Tom Mullen on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 00:19
This is just great...

Thanks a lot LaRouche. TPTB are just waiting for us to rise up, don't you think? Why do you think they have brought home some of the troops to police us? Why do you think we are now under Martial Law? This is not good at all...

Posted by Pooch on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 19:26
Happens fast doesn't it.

Happens fast doesn't it.

It happened after hurricane Katrina.

Posted by Laurie on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 21:37
Happens fast doesn't it.

The pace certainly quickened after Dr. Paul started speaking truth, on national television no less, and Katrina

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Thomas Jefferson

gardentoolnumber5 Posted by gardentoolnumber5 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 09:13
Censorship?

Having some problems playing the video, I think Youtube may be slowing down the feed on this one as all the others play fine. This one can't keep the cache full and stops retrieving more almost each time I try to refresh. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?

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RiverRat Posted by RiverRat on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 19:21
Dangerous Ground

Even if he is right, couldn't he potentially be charged with inciting a riot or sedition?

Lee_Pierson Posted by Lee_Pierson on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 17:55
The simple answer: No

If you listen carefully he did not actually incite Americans to stand up and riot or kill anyone.

Difference: (1) Go out, get your guns & your ammo, and fire upon the first government agent you see!

(2) Americans could rise up in a french style revolution - Americans could kill, they are not killers, but they could because everything they hold dear is being taken away from them. They are capable of killing.

(1) could be prosecuted (and depending on context, may not be prosecuted, for instance, if it was satire)

(2) Is just opinion. Opinions, at least for now, are not actionable as incitement.

Don't worry though. There already exists legislation that would ostensibly create thought crimes a la the domestic terrorism prevention act. Which of course is another example of a condition precedent that if met could cause people to rise up in violent rebellion like the French did in their own revolution.

I am not a LaRouche fan myself, but he committed no crime here that I am aware of. Of course, according to executive theories of the unitary executive, Bush could just declare him an enemy combatant and seal him away in a military brig for the duration of the "long war" anyway so this discussion is rather silly.
Which i think makes LaRouche's point.

windycityatty Posted by windycityatty on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 18:30
I Agree With Windy

LaRouche does not explicitly call here for violence or the overthrtow of government. But this video is yet another reminder of a very important point-- namely that we at Breakthematrix do not, and cannot, advocate violence or overthrow. It's absolutely essential in these difficult times that freedom people retain the most central and key strategic advantage we have-- a strong moral and legal grounding for the message we deliver. Our adversaries in DC and Wall Street have expended their own moral and legal capital right along with their debt based phony money. These people are bankrupt in more ways than one; they are engaged in illegitimate acts of supposed governance; and they are operating far beyond the bounds of any proper constitutional framework. Our adversaries are the anarchists and criminals, not us. If the movement for freedom is to succeed we must keep it that way. R

Rick Williams Posted by Rick Williams on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 19:38
simply put

Violence is and always should be the last resort of free people.

"What luck for Rulers that Men do not think" - Hitler

Izult Posted by Izult on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 00:07
anarchy

Amen Rick, no matter how bad things get in our Government, the worst thing that could happen is anarchy and an explosion of violent behavior.

Lee_Pierson Posted by Lee_Pierson on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 21:35
I agree, Rick.

Our number one objective should be to inform the American people about what is going on. There are good people like Ron Paul ready to step in and take over Washington-- as soon as the American people vote them in. Of course the president can only do so much. This would have to apply to all levels of government (other than the Supreme Court, but I think those guys would go along if they saw that Americans were pushing for a stricter adherence to the constitution)

Imagine if Ron Paul were the Republican candidate in the coming election, instead of McCain. Imagine if congressmen and senators were mainly libertarian. I think that is what would have happened had Americans understood what was really in our best interest, and in the best interest of our children and grandchildren. I think it's up to us here at BTM to help them understand that.

Claire Posted by Claire on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 19:57
With the right President the Supreme Court could swiftly change

in our favor......but we would want some executive orders rescinded , as well as a Congress that cares about the Constitution. The Supreme Court, however, needs to have someone like Andrew Napolitano as Chief Justice.
I agree, we need more libertarians in the Congress, the two party gridlock on the system is what got us where we are.

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone; and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.--John Quincy Adams

Posted by flhsmomma on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 16:01
Thanks

LOL great reply but you certainly show why we all need to be worried!

Lee_Pierson Posted by Lee_Pierson on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 18:44
I don't think so

But I'm not a lawyer. He is not calling for it or encouraging it. He is just saying what he thinks will happen.

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sharpsteve Posted by sharpsteve on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 18:15
Congress Privately threatened on Bailout

Rep. Brad Sherman says Congress threatened with Martial Law if Bailout bill is was not passed on Cspan 54 minutes before VP Debate. Congress told markets would fall 2000-3000 points the first day and another couple thousand point the next. Then Martial Law would be declared. This is not the same Martial law as the Congressional rules. He means the real thing.

http://www.breakthematrix.com/Government/BREAKING-Rep-Brad-Sherman-Marti...

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sharpsteve Posted by sharpsteve on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 10:52
Well that is

quite scary. Is a law that is passed under such conditions even valid? I mean, Congress passes bills under stressful circumstances all the time. But this seems more like coercion, and further, that at least some members weren't under stress but rather 'duress.' Questions of this sort are out of my area of knowledge, so I do not know the answer.

If what this congressman declares is true (and not just rumor circulating that if the house doesn't vote for this then untold calamities could befall the american people), then I think somebody, preferably a member of Congress, should challenge the bill - and the process which led to its enactment- in court or through some internal congressional body or something.

Unbelievable times we live in.

windycityatty Posted by windycityatty on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 16:22
The Right Wording

Yes, I can see how he chose his words carefully and I agree. But the way that he said the words seemed more like a suggestion to me. Regardless he is probably right, at least to some extent.

Lee_Pierson Posted by Lee_Pierson on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 18:51
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