I have done some research on the supposed "Israel Moses Seif Bank" of Italy and as others have found, there is no available evidence of the existence of this name or Bank. I have spoken to people who would be considered experts in their knowledge of Italian Banking around the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve (1913) and they told me that they have never heard of this Bank

see: "The initial phases of Italian banks' expansion abroad, 1900–31". http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid...

Which leads to the quesion of who was it that made up that list of ownershp? And when was it written? That list is thrown about the internet like it is the Gospel Truth but it seems very few have ever bothered to thoroughly research its origin or authenticity...

"""""""The Rothschild name is used a lot in international banking conspiracy theories. And there was a time when the Rothschold family did have signficiant power in world banking.

But times change. Once considered one of the great fortunes of the world, the Rothschild empire is but a shadaw of it's former self. "Rothschild bankers of today being only a minor player in the global economy.""""""

So, whats this then?

http://www.rothschild.com/officesworldwide/

http://www.rothschild.com/officesworldwide/?id=articles/SitesbyLoBs

The web of the the banks,holding companies,subsidaries is huge and dificult to pin down.
You can see here part of the branch.I believe there are many more.

http://www.paris-orleans.com/Image/concordia_fr.JPG

I did not mean to be rude in my initial post. But when I checked for a couple of the banks via google, nothing; now wouldn't a bank want to have a website? To attract business. After all they want to do business. Right?

I do not doubt the veracity of SOME of the content in the link, it is informative and thought provoking. However, we are on the same page, you and I, with respect to getting rid of the Federal Reserve system. We do not move towards our goal when we merely parrot some stuff we found on our favorite conspiracy sites. We move towards our goal by being unbiased, meaning don't believe everything you read or hear. Red flags go up when even the basic fundamentals of a story don't seem to hold water.

The only references I could find about Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy were self supporting, no primary source for this bank if its ownership or its mission. Many sites promoting this " Fed ownership list' reeked of anti-semitic bents.

Surely you can say that: "You don't know because they don't want you to know. The Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy will always remain hidden to the oppressed." Well in this case you are saying you are right because I can never disprove a negative, these kinds of arguments are not how anyone gains credibility.

Yo

Our time is NOW.

While no doubt the Federal Reserve is the epitome of corpratism, a barrier to free trade and free markets, and is a vehicle of transfer of wealth to the politically connected, the story referenced here seems totally inept. While undoubtedly much of what is written in the link is true much also appears to be untrue.

We must resist all conspiracy lunacy, conspiracy lunacy is killing, and will kill this movement. How can we be taken seriously if we can't even cross check our facts? We cannot rush to call others out for avoiding the truth, while we engage in the same type of conduct and present poorly checked articles as fact. Just because we want to believe them to be true.

We must slay the real dragons not the imaginary ones. Trust me there are plenty of real dragons out there.

http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/federal-reserve-ownership

The content is as follows:

Introduction
It seems that a consistent practice of "outrageous claim" sites is to repeat the same misinformation without research, then cross-link as though this is proof.

Let's look at an example where several sites have revealed the long-held secret owners of the Federal Reserve. Only a little research into the list would uncover the flaws.

The Alleged owners
Rothschild Bank of London
No such bank exists today.

The Rothschild name is used a lot in international banking conspiracy theories. And there was a time when the Rothschold family did have signficiant power in world banking.

But times change. Once considered one of the great fortunes of the world, the Rothschild empire is but a shadaw of it's former self. "Rothschild bankers of today being only a minor player in the global economy." - ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England])

Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Currently doing business as "M.M. Warburg and Company" ([http://www.mmwarburg.de/en/bankhaus/adressen/] ) The Bank has not been owned or controlled by the Warburgs since the 1930s driven out by anti-semite practices in Nazi Germany.

"Reichsbank president Hjalmar Schacht told Max M. Warburg during a meeting in Berlin in September 1937 that he could no longer keep the bank…(it) was confiscated when the war broke out." ([http://www.mmwarburg.de/en/bankhaus/historie/1938_1945.html])

"… Virtually all members of the Warburg family had fled to the United States or Great Britain by 1938." ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_family])

Rothschild Bank of Berlin
There is no such bank. Rothschilds does not even have an office in Berlin ([http://www.rothschild.com/groupprivatebanking/?id=globallocations/Germany])

Lehman Brothers of New York
Exists but not quite the power house it is protrayed. It is currently listed as 46th largest bank. The last Lehman to lead it died in 1969. Today it is a publicly held firm so it's major assets can be viewed in the annual report. And, no, ownership of a central bank is not listed as an asset.

Lazard Brothers of Paris
No such firm exists. Lazard Ltd is a publicly traded firm with a market value of $2B which is rather small compared to other major banks. It's major assets can be viewed in the annual report. http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/lcddata.html?ticker=LAZ

Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Has not exist since 1977 when it merged with Lehman. ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuhn,_Loeb_&_Co.])

Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
A search for the existance of this bank did not turn up a single reliable source.

Goldman, Sachs of New York
Currently called Goldman, Sachs Group Inc, this is a real bank and a big one at that with $78B in market value. The annual report shows about $1B in assets but no Federal Reserve ownership. ([http://www2.goldmansachs.com/our-firm/investors/financials/current/annual-reports/2007-annual-report.html])

Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
No such bank could be found

Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Merged and renamed to JP Morgan Chase

This one does exist and is pretty darn big. Since it is publicly traded, you can view the top shareholders and assets online.

So who does own the Federal Reserve?
The FRS is headed by the Board of Governor a Federal Agency with no mechanism of any sort for anything resembling private ownership.

The concept of ownership comes at the branch level which are organized similar to corporations. Member banks are compelled to subscribe to shares in their local Fed branch. These shares are very limited in their power. (For more detail, see [http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/federal-reserve-system])

Regardless of who the share owners are, the law is fairly clear about ownership of shares in a Fed branch:

Only member banks can own shares
All member banks must be domestic (i.e. a majority of the shares in a member bank must be owned by Americans)
Regardless of the number of shares a bank owns it has only one vote.
Regardless of the number of branches a bank has, it can only own shares and have it's vote in a single branch.
So involvement and influence in Fed branches is spread over thousands of banks.

And, of course, no bank has any vote within the Board of Governors which oversees the entire system.

Bottom line: The above list of secret owners has been parrot for decades by gullible conspiracy theorists who accept it without question.

Closing
Note to any conspiracy theorists reading this and getting outraged:
Suppress your normal reaction to attack the author and the source.

Instead, invest your energy in doing some original research and make your information iron-clad.

Yes, there are evil people out there wanting to do bad things. Stop diverting attention with this out-of-date nonsense and document something current and accurate.

External Links:
[http://www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm]
[http://www.adl.org/special_reports/control_of_fed/print.asp]
[http://www.scribd.com/doc/334135/Member-Banks-in-the-First-Federal-Reserve-District]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_billionaires]
[http://www.onlinebankingreport.com/resources/100.html]

ced Our time is NOW.