America’s dirty little oil secret: Plastic Bottles and Bags

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With oil prices surging to almost $120 a barrel on Friday April 25th, 2008 the sky is certainly looking like the limit.

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pretty disturbing they

pretty disturbing they pointed to Walmart as a role model ... for anything

Sevan Posted by Sevan on Mon, 04/28/2008 - 8:44am
Like benton1967, I also keep

Like benton1967, I also keep cloth bags in my cars that I use each time I get groceries. My "water bottle" consists of a used glass juice container that I simply fill with tap water and keep in the fridge (I'm lucky to have excellent water here- no chlorine, fluoride, etc). I've also been running all my cars on domestically-made, renewable biodiesel since just before Bush attacked Iraq. I'm now teaching myself to grow some food. :) Every little bit helps.

PikaVic Posted by PikaVic on Sun, 04/27/2008 - 10:16pm
I am also learning to grow

I am also learning to grow my own food, my starter plants are doing pretty well, if you don't already know about it search for "layered garden" because the path of least resistance is just a good idea.

If you like eggs, you might consider getting your own chicken, they are crazy easy to take care of, more so then I even imagined. Although I will admit it's only been 3 days. In short though you just setup a water and feed spot, and give them a basic coup with a nesting area and for the cost of some feed, you get organic bug control and manure(careful its nitrogen rich and needs to be composted or it will "burn" your plants) and an egg a day per chicken if you get one of the common hybrids, and if you are getting them for eggs, I have to say the ISA Brown I got has been the most docile and quiet(I got 3 different breeds). By doing so, you reduce the demand for the oil it takes to get the eggs to your kitchen, plus they are much fresher, and not only do you reduce your oil demand, but your neighbors, family, and friends as well, as in their first year(their most productive) they typically produce 300+ eggs per chicken, so you will have plenty to give away, or perhaps barter with. The best starter website I have found if you would like to find out more: http://allaboutchickens.tk/

Posted by EliteTempleton on Mon, 04/28/2008 - 8:50pm
I just learned something

I just learned something important, apparently one chicken is not enough. Who knew? "The hen needs to see another chicken for her ovaries to activate".

I opted for a minimum of two and ended up going home with 3, more because I figured they were a flock animal and therefore would be happier together. I would have been terribly confused if it was not laying any eggs after 6 or 7 weeks!

Posted by EliteTempleton on Tue, 04/29/2008 - 1:43pm
What is even more baffling

What is even more baffling is how much of the world's petroleum reserves are being pissed away in the name of producing ethylene as opposed to gasoline--ethylene is the principal building block of plastics.

If I had the time, I would be attempting to convert HDPE into some sort of fuel--whether it be diesel or straight-chain gasoline. Somehow, I don't think that this would be that difficult given current prices. What does anyone else think?

Scotty T Posted by Scotty T on Sun, 04/27/2008 - 7:31pm
Actually oil might be

Actually oil might be re-newable. http://www.321energy.com/editorials/bainerman/bainerman083105.html

I know for a FACT that is Texas there is enough oil in the earth to supply the US for the next 150 years, not to mention Alaska, Artic, and Africa. In the link above Dr. Thomas Gold who contends that oil is not a limited resource, and that oil, natural gas and coal, are not so-called “fossil fuels.”

In his book, The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels, he explains that dinosaurs and plants and the fossils from those living beings are not the origin of oil and natural gas, but rather generated from a chemical substance in the crust of the Earth.

Dr. Gold: "Astronomers have been able to find that hydrocarbons, as oil, gas and coal are called, occur on many other planetary bodies. They are a common substance in the universe. You find it in the kind of gas clouds that made systems like our solar system. You find large quantities of hydrocarbons in them. Is it reasonable to think that our little Earth, one of the planets, contains oil and gas for reasons that are all its own and that these other bodies have it because it was built into them when they were born? That question makes a lot of sense. After all, they didn’t have dinosaurs and ferns on Jupiter to produce oil and gas?"

Peace.

Posted by Death to the NWO on Mon, 04/28/2008 - 2:42am
Plastics can now be made

Plastics can now be made from renewable resources like corn and hemp.

Grow your own food, textiles, etc!

Edit: Added links...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_construction
Search Google for "Corn Plastic"
Search Google for "Hemp
Plastic"

VitusChoice Posted by VitusChoice on Sun, 04/27/2008 - 6:57pm
Those are some mind blowing

Those are some mind blowing statisics,

I now keep my cloth bags in my car to make sure I dont forget them on a random stop to the store, everything counts, every action makes a difference

thanks for the story

benton1967 Posted by benton1967 on Sun, 04/27/2008 - 4:11pm
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