Run Your Car On Water Today: STAN MEYER KILLED
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I don't know what Stan Meyer died from . But I do know that you cannot get a positive energy output in the manner he described.
Try this thought experiment:
You start with a fuel tank filled with 1 gallon of water. You extract the hydrogen from the water using his device. Then you burn the hydrogen either in an internal combustion engine or a fuel cell. You use the energy to power your car. Burning the hydrogen converts it back to water again, the same amount you started with. Lets say you collect the water in a second tank. After you use up the 1 gallon of water in your fuel tank you will have collected 1 gallon of water in the second tank. So you started with 1 gallon of water and you ended up with 1 gallon of water and you also got a net energy output to drive your car. In other words the energy came from nowhere. And that violates the laws of physics.
Readers of this forum probably know the reason gold is inflation proof is because government cannot create it out of nothing. Its like that with energy too.
Stan Myer died of a cerebral aneurysm related to high blood pressure and food poisoning. Nothing else has ever been evidenced.
I know about how one is to take Wiki with the proverbial grain of salt.
However, just about anything you want to know about any of this can be found at :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer
...either directly or through links.
Of all the searching I did, I found lots of information showing that Stan was a charlatan, and this device is a fraud, all supported by what to me is reasonable information.. although I am not in this field, so what do I know?
The only pro "Stan and ChittyChittyBangBang" info I have found has been completely unsupported. People say "He was poisoned." There is NO evidence of anything like that happening. None.
I gotta wonder at folks attacking other people in here for not offering supporting info for their ideas, and in the same text throwing in ideas of their own with an equal lack of supporting information.
This is NOT a science forum. This is a group that exists to support the return of liberty to our nation.
So stop jumping down people's throats for trying to grab onto some kind of hopeful dream.
Whether the StanCar is a hoax or not, it's something to think about.
This is probably pretty incoherent. I don't apologize. I'm just a caveman with a keyboard.
You're right. This is not a science forum.. it's a forum about freedom.
And if someone wishes to talk about science on a freedom forum, then so be it.
Liberty and science have much more in common than you think. Otherwise, I really wouldn't have a place here, now would I?
-Miss Green
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
And just how do know? With enough MONEY U can get anyone to say anything!
Come on.
Thats what these "Bankers" have been doing for over a hundred years .. Wise up!
There's simply no evidence to support the conjecture here. Has this water fuel cell been proven? No. Is there any indication that this dude has been murdered? No. This dude has been sitting on this so called water fuel cell for how many years? If it were true why wasn't he murdered long ago?
It's stupid illogical "conspiracy theories" like these that make very real and important questions about government corruption where very real and abundant evidence of a real conspiracy is available. Of course, 9/11 is the PERFECT example of a very real conspiracy that has been soiled with the "conpiracy theory" label.
Miggy,
Why did this man just die after drinking a glass of wine with these conspiritors.
Just that quick .. MONEY my friend .. That buys you silence. U should know the game by now!
a celebrity. Alternate energy is not my area of expertise so I patiently wait for the experts to come up with a nice solution and not get killed in the process!
Who knows about Stan Meyers? I won't be spending a lot of time looking into it. Anyhow, wouldn't be surprised either way -- if it was real or bogus........
Just Google "Stan Meyer" pretty interesting.
The autopsy report makes no mention of the often
rumored "food poisoning" and the death is ruled
as being natural, caused by a cerebral aneurysm
(this would account for the violent vomiting in
the parking lot).
However, if Stan did indeed have a water fuel cell
which functioned as he claimed, I am much more
inclined to think Stan was poisoned and the coroner
was paid off to make it look like a natural death.
Since the coroner (William R. Adrion) had exclusive
access to the body, no one else verified his
findings, and he could have said virtually anything
about the manner in which Stan died. However, the
coroners report is required to have information
regarding the circumstances surrounding the death...
and there were many witnesses. In other words,
while the manner in which Stan died could not be
corroborated by anyone else, and thus could be faked,
the circumstances surrounding his death had witnesses,
and thus, could not be faked.
In this section, it reads: "Decedent supposedly at
lunch with N.A.T.O. officials at a Cracker Barrel
diner. The group made an opening toast with cranberry
juice, immediately after which, decedent ran outside
followed by his brother, then vomited violently and
told his brother that he had been poisoned."
I find it interesting that the coroner writes,
"supposedly." I wonder how many other reports he
puts "supposedly" on. It is an unprofessional and
unusual statement of disbelief. To me this is the
coroner's way of saying to the public, "it is
doubtful," which is completely unnecessary and makes
me feel like he is trying to lead you away from
believing that material in this section which he was
forced to write truthfully.
I would love to know more of the story behind what
happened that night. Steve Meyer watched as his
brother vomited and lay dying before his eyes.
What does he believe? Is Steve carrying on Stan's
work, but in a different format...one that could
possibly get its foot in the door of big oil?
Oliver Stone needs to make a movie out of this.
Now is the perfect time.
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you have no analytical capabilities.
Are your analytical capabilities.
All U know how to do is make someone
else try to dig up what you want answered!
U R an idiot to say the least. Get U'r hands off
the stupid keyboard and do a little investigative
reasearch on your own .. U really R a "Plant" (not in
the vegetable sence) What a useless peice U R!
yes. you found me out. i am being paid by a government agency to spread reasonable arguments.
there are many things i will not "do research into". one of which are claims that propose that a fundamental law of physics has been evaded. so if someone claims to get more energy out of a process then is put in, i do not wish for you to "do the digging" for me, because there is nothing to dig up. i will not dig myself for the same reason. so if someone makes a claim as extraordinary as that, it will not suffice for him to simply say that it is so and the evidence is secret. the evidence for that is not secret, it does not exist, because it's an impossibility.
so here we come back to your lack of analytical skill. you start of with a premise that is flawed at its core and you derive conclusions and implications from that flawed premise. the only way you can even bring yourself up to believe something like what is claimed in this clip is because you have no concept of known (high school level) physics. you let your wishful thinking guide your reasoning. thus you have no analytical skills. you spread rumors and falsities mostly due to your own ignorance of known facts about reality.
Awesomo... I'm assuming when you say "that a fundamental law of physics has been evaded" is energy is neither created nor destroyed, right? Are you including both potential and kinetic energy?
What about magnetic energy? You can run one generator off of gas and have it hooked up magnetically to other generators, and the magnet does all the work.
Anyway....personally, I don't think this concept of alternative energy is very efficient, considering the fact that it takes so much electricity to extract the hydrogen.
-Miss Green
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
really a jerk! You have so much "Splash" you want to Spew that you think
any dimwit will listen. You need to either just go away or say something
positive. There is Nothing you have posted That makes me think you have the
Brains God gave a sodacracker!!
Wake Up America
http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=liberty4us&pag...
.. later
all i can say is truth is not always pretty. i don't write for dimwits. it's the dimwits that don't like what i have to say. i'm not about to go away and i'm not about to praise idiocy so you'll just have to deal with that in your own way.
as far as my brain is concerned, it served me well and it keeps on giving. also, my brain wasn't 'given' to me by ceiling cat. it has grown and evolved throughout my life like every other part of my body. there's no mystery there.
he's getting more energy out than he's putting in. but he's keeping the process secret.
if you are buying into this, you need to sit down and try to understand why it is that you allow yourself to believe in something that lacks any evidence whatsoever.
bullcrap like this is abundant on the internet. why people chose to buy into it is beyond me. maybe it's wishful thinking.
Well David, about half a year or more ago, some college scientists discovered mixing aluminum and gallium produces hydrogen as a byproduct. Of course, the article I read this from was taken off CNN.com quickly. so I could not get the necessary information to site the article. Coincidently enough it said the feds were interfering with the dsicovery. Ho hum.
so... your claim of these scientists and their discovery is published where? at this point, you're the only one who claims to have seen it.
there was this one guy who actually developed an anti-aging pill. made completely from natural ingredients. i read it on BBC about a year ago, but they took the article down from their web site the same day. no doubt his invention was stolen by the elitists.
OK lets talk basic laws of physics. The first law of thermodynamics says in effect that you cannot create energy out of nothing. That is also known as conservation of energy. Water is H2O; two hydrogen atoms bonded to one oxygen atom. It is certainly possible to separate the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen gas, but it takes energy to do it. And the amount of energy it requires is at least as much as you can get out when you burn the hydrogen and convert it back to water. If you had a 100% efficient process then the amount of energy you could get out would be equal to the amount you put in. But in real processes there are inefficiencies. Those inefficiencies in the process will always mean that the energy you have to put in will exceed the amount you can get out. In other words it cannot work as the inventor claims.
Sorry folks but there is no great discovery here and there is no inventor murdered by the oil companies to squelch his invention.
I am no scientist but surely it seems more efficient than our process of securing,extracting,refining,delivering and fueling of the alternative.
"free thinkers are dangerous, and beautiful"
it's because you're no scientist that you think it's more efficient. to make a comparison you need figures. you can get figures on how much it costs to produce gasoline from your local gas station. do you have any idea about how much energy is going into this man's gadget and how much is going out? without this information, how can you possibly make a comparison and claim that one is more efficient than the other?
ok,I hear you brother awesome, you're right, I dont have all the information and yes like I said and you restated, I am no scientist. Lets be cool here, Id like to think were on the same shitty side of the grass here, cool out and educate constructively challenge each others assumptions,beliefs or whatever. Do you think there is a chance we will wage wars over tap water in foreign soil as we do for this texas tea? I hear you.
"free thinkers are dangerous, and beautiful"
What I got from Stans video is it take less than a half an AMP to produce
the mix he needs to convert water to hydrogen/oxygen mix! He had over
22 patents to the effect. That sound kinda scientific to me!
less than half an amp at what voltage? what volume of hydrogen is produced per time unit? you're given the amount of energy required to produce this chemical reaction but no mention of how much energy is produced. there is a reason for this omission. that's not science. that's fairytales.
a component of the Free market?
Japan has their own version of this water technology, converting water
into Hydrogen and oxygen! India has and is running autos on Air.
I hope in the near future the oil cartel drown in their oil.
I was in Wal Mart yesterday and discovered HEMP lotion! Good stuff.
We can make just about anything with Hemp!
Hemp could be used for so many things, fuel included. My soap is hemp based......
You're so right! Read one my articles below about hemp-- it's truly an amazing thing!
http://breakthematrix.com/node/8313
If you're interested in more info, this coming week of my show is HEMP WEEK! Check it out! :)
Mon/Thurs/Fri 12-1 EST, here at Break the Matrix.
-Miss Green
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
I'll bet it dosen't make the news!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6yRn4IAsrU&feature=related
Here's Part 2 of that story!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h75_TGiwg78&feature=related
Wake Up America
http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=liberty4us&pag...
.. later