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Some of you who enjoy planning events....let's plan a BIG one for Washington, DC very soon, to try and force the jokers up there on the Hill to do something. The democrats don't want to do ANYTHING that would bring the price down, because they want high gas prices as leverage for the election. i.e. look what George Bush (an by extension, republicans) has done with oil. It's all his fault and big oil that we have the prices we have....elect us and we will help lower the prices. They could do something right now to give us relief and we need to hold their feet to the fire about it.

I'm sick of the democrats doing everything they can to make sure our economy is bad...just to help them win elections. How about us at BTM? Anyone willing ??

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A real solution...

The problem of oil should be treated by the government as most activities that have negative externalities... a tax. No one in particular complains too much about cigarette taxes. Cigarettes cause millions if not billions in dollars in Medicare and other health cost to smokers and non-smokers each year. It is the governments job to identify these externalities and discourage them through taxes that correctly offset the cost associated with them. The same is true for oil consumption.

The incidence of many lung related ailments, such as asthma and lung cancer, have rapidly increased in the last 50 years. And by rapidly increase I mean 2 to 3 times more prevalent. Keep in mind, the actual numbers are 4-8 times more prevalent but increases in identification and diagnosis has played a part in this increase. Also, keep in mind, smoking has dropped by a half in this same period, adding more weight to the numbers.

It is still somewhat contestable whether or not the increases we are seeing in climate temperatures are man made, but it is the basic degradation of our air quality that we should be concerned about it... The air is a classic public good. It is owned by no one in particular and requires a government to insure its protection.

A real solution to our current energy crisis would be a tax on gasoline, along with a CUT on the general income tax. GIVE Americans money to spend on alternative technologies. A big part of our problem is the government deciding who to give the subsidies to, spawning the boom, bust, and ultimately wasteful technologies such as E85 and incessant comparisons to the failure that is the Brazilian energy "solution." Cutting down rain forest to feed a energy demand 100 times smaller than our own is not a solution.

If Americans could spend their money on what ever technologies proved themselves to be economical, viable, and practical, we would have a solution much earlier than silly 300 million dollar incentive programs, and continual big oil bashing will ever produce.

Posted by NathanScott on Sat, 07/05/2008 - 04:38
a real confusion

you're obviously taken in a lot of input and lack the necessary means of processing it.
first, you have to stop making silly statements like "No one in particular complains too much about cigarette taxes". no one complains except the people that actually pay these taxes. that's like saying that no one complains about the sales tax except people who buy things. no one complains about the income tax except of course people who have income.

> Cigarettes cause millions if not billions in dollars in Medicare and other health cost to smokers and non-smokers each year
< i don't know of one single person that was affected by me smoking. i don't know of one single person that was affected by anyone i know that is a smoker. how exactly do smokers affect the health of non-smokers?

as to the energy problem. like with any other problem in the economy, it's the government regulation that's the problem, not lack of taxes.

awesomo5000 Posted by awesomo5000 on Sat, 07/05/2008 - 05:06
I agree with Newt that we

I agree with Newt that we should drill for oil on our own land and in the gulf of Mexcio, Alaska and where ever else we find it. Aside from that Newt is a dufus.

BTW I would be skeptical of extraordinary claims about devices that dramatically increase fuel economy or produce really cheap fuel. One of the more common ones these days is a car that runs on water, a flat out violation of the laws of physics.

Posted by David S on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 17:15
If water can power everything from hydro-electric dams

to basic water wheels, why would an engine running on water be a violation of physics?

AdamAdamR Posted by AdamAdamR on Sat, 07/05/2008 - 05:19
you cannot be serious. the

you cannot be serious.
the dams are built to build up pressure which is then channeled through a turbine which turns generators. it's not water that does it in those instances, it's the pressure. you can achieve the same with any fluid or gas. you compare this to the claims that the water powered car engine inventors make?

an engine running on water is not a violation of physics anymore than an engine running on jello is. nobody's claiming that it violates physics. the simple truth is that in order to get energy from a liquid or gaseous source there needs to be a chemical reaction. so in the claims that are made that a car runs on water they simply leave out the active ingredient that is used to split the water molecule into the useful hydrogen and oxygen atoms which we know how to convert to mechanical energy. that active ingredient cannot be infinitely effective, it must run out at some point during the conversion process. and usually with claims like the water car, the amount of energy required to get the active ingredient is much greater than the energy that it can provide by initiating the chemical reaction of splitting the water molecules.

i hope you can take that ugly truth and start living with it. there is no such thing as free energy. there never was and never will be. just like there is no such thing as free social programs. you can understand the latter but for some reason you refuse to understand the former.

awesomo5000 Posted by awesomo5000 on Sat, 07/05/2008 - 08:06
July 12th Washington DC

There is a march planed for July 12th

I Promise to PROMOTE, Preserve, Protect and Defend The Constitution!

Check out the videos I'm watching on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/profile_video_blog?user=sharpsteve2003

sharpsteve Posted by sharpsteve on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 01:55
1950's

Back in the mid to late 1950's a 4 barrel carburetor was designed and
patended to get 50+ miles to the gallon. It was presented to Chrysler Corp
for their 318 V-8 engine. It was immediately bought up by Big Oil , and
dissappeared? I believe that this "New" Algae concept has OR will be bought
up by Big Oil If not already. How can we as U.S. citizens compete with this kind
of money? I think we need to change Congress! They are all in bed together!
Just my opinion.

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liberty4us Posted by liberty4us on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 01:20
One more side of the OIL STORY!

Big Oil

Bill Phillips spent nearly 50 years in the US oil and gas industry; most
of his career was with the Phillips Petroleum Company. Bill is a
descendant of Frank Phillips. Frank Phillips, along with his brother Lee
Eldas (L.E.) Phillips, Sr., founded the original Phillips Petroleum
Company in 1917 in Bartlesville, OK. Do you remember Phillips 66 gas
stations? Phillips Petroleum Company merged with Conoco, Inc. in 2002 to
form the current ConocoPhillips oil company.

So, when Bill talks about oil and gas issues, listen - very closely. You
will find Bill's thoughts and facts very revealing, very compelling and
very difficult to argue with.

As you prepare to cast your crucial ballots this Fall, please think long
and hard about the far-reaching, cumulative effects of the US political
philosophies, policies and legislation that have contributed to the
current and future US oil supply situation.

Did you know that the United States does NOT have any big oil companies.
It's true: the largest American oil company, Exxon Mobil, is only the
14th largest in the world, and is dwarfed by the really big oil
companies--all owned by foreign governments or government-sponsored
monopolies--that dominate the world's oil supply.

With 94% of the world's oil supply locked up by foreign governments,
most of which are hostile to the United States, the relatively puny
American oil companies do not have access to enough crude oil to
significantly affect the market and help bring prices down. Thus,
ExxonMobil, a "small" oil company, buys 90% of the crude oil that it
refines for the U.S. market from the big players, i.e, mostly-hostile
foreign governments. The price at the U.S. pump is rising because the
price the big oil companies charge ExxonMobil and the other small
American companies for crude oil is going up as the value of the
American dollar goes down. They will eventually bleed this country into
printing even more money and we will go into runway inflation once again
as we did under the Carter Democratic reign.

This is obviously a tough situation for the American consumer. The irony
is that it doesn't have to be that way. The United States--unlike, say,
France--actually has vast petroleum reserves. It would be possible for
American oil companies to develop those reserves, play a far bigger role
in international markets, and deliver gas at the pump to American
consumers at a much lower price, while creating many thousands of jobs
for Americans. This would be infinitely preferable to shipping endless
billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia, Russia and Venezuela to be used in
propping up their economies.

So, why doesn't it happen? Because the Democrat Party--aided, sadly, by
a handful of Republicans--deliberately keeps gas prices high and our
domestic oil companies small by putting most of our reserves off limits
to development. China is now drilling in the Caribbean, off Cuba but our
own companies are barred by law from developing large oil fields off the
coasts of Florida and California. Enormous oil-shale deposits in the
Rocky Mountain states could go a long way toward supplying American
consumers' needs, but the Democratic Congress won't allow those
resources to be developed. ANWR contains vast petroleum reserves, but we
don't know how vast, because Congress, not wanting the American people
to know how badly its policies are hurting our economy, has made it
illegal to explore and map those reserves, let alone develop them.

In short, all Americans are paying a terrible price for the Democratic
Party's perverse energy policies. I own some small interests in tiny, 4
barrel-per-day oil wells in Wyoming. We have 14 agencies that have
iron-hand jurisdiction over us. If we drop any oil on the ground when
the refinery truck comes to pick up oil from our holding tanks, we are
fined. Yet down the road the state will spray thousands of gallons of
used oil on a dirt road to control dirt. When it rains that oil runs
into rivers and creeks. Yet a cup of oil on the ground at our wellhead
is a $50,000 EPA fine plus additional fines from state regulating
agencies. They treat oil as if it were plutonium that has the potential
to leak into the environment. We are fined if our dirt burms are not
high enough around a holding tank, yet the truck that picks up our oil
runs down the road at 60 mph with no burm around it. People wonder why
there is no more exploration in this country. It's because of the
regulators; people who have lived their whole lives doing nothing but
imposing fines on small operators like us for doing mostly nothing.

So, America enjoy your $4.00 per gallon gasoline. Your dollar is now
worth 0.62 Euro-Cents. The lack of American production of GNP, the
massive trade deficit (as labor markets have moved overseas to fight
insanely high union imposed labor costs in America) and the run away
printing of money (backed by nothing of value here in America) has
caused the dollar to become more worthless on the international market.
And that's where our oil comes from. It's paid for with dollars that
become more worthless everyday. If we had just kept par with the Euro
we'd be paying $62 dollars per barrel for oil (42 gallons) or about
$1.50 instead of $2.50 a gallon for crude oil.

What the US government also does not tell you is that it is the
leaseholder and royalty recipient of most oil production and receives
25% of the gross oil sales before we pay for electricity to lift the
oil, propane to keep the oil-water separators from freezing in the
winters. We pay a pumper to visit each well everyday plus we have
equipment failures all the time. We pay for that out of our 75% of gross
sales. The government does not share in any expenses to run any
production well. So, if the Big Oil Companies are making record profits,
then so is the federal government from it's 25% tax on every molecule of
oil sold to a refinery in this country. Why isn't the government on the
stand for "Record" profits? What you don't see is this 25% of the sales
price of crude oil being siphoned away by the government. That money
plus the road taxes, state taxes, etc. amounts to over $1 per gallon of
gasoline you are buying while the governments only admit to about 50
cents per gallon.

To all you Democrats, when you go vote for your candidate, a blazing
liberal like Barrack Hussein Obama or Hillary Clinton, just keep in mind
that their liberal spending habits will further decrease the value of
the American dollar on the world market and your gasoline costs will
hike even higher. As they introduce more give-away programs, raise taxes
on everyone to pay people not to produce or work, your dollar will
continue to dwindle on the world market and you will be paying $10.00
per gallon at the next election. Cheap hydrocarbon fuel is all over.
Enjoy! Enjoy the fruits of your decision to elect these folks when you
are there in that voting booth and you stab your pin through a
Democrat's name.

William "Bill" Phillips

Wake Up America
http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=liberty4us&pag...

.. later

1newlife Posted by 1newlife on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 13:05
What would Congress do?

Do you suggest that Congress use the force of government to keep them from buying the patent? I haven't worked this out yet, but just curious.

Tom Mullen

www.tommullen.net
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Tom Mullen Posted by Tom Mullen on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 01:26
What happened to Free Enterprise?

What I meant is Big Oil puts its money on helping the government make its decisions!
Lobbying the congress and other officials for their vote. Do we as citizens have a say?
I said nothing about "Force" So Lets just say that Free Enterprise should be the way our
nation functions.

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liberty4us Posted by liberty4us on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 01:48
Big Oil's money

didn't go to the government in this case, it went to the developer of the technology, for the patent. This was a free exchange between "big oil" and the inventor. If the government were to prevent it, it would be using force (all government action is done by force). Do you agree?

Tom Mullen

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Tom Mullen Posted by Tom Mullen on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 01:56
Big Oil

Do you think that the "bush" dynasty starting with Prescot Bush (German) dosen't have a
hand in what happening in America? IF I'm not mistaken Ron Paul said that we should have limited
government! Isn't this whats it all about? Who's side R U on? Gas is expected to hit over $5 bucks
a gallon by end of summer! We have alternate fuels available!!! Why aren't they available to the American
Citizens using Free Enterprise without intervention!!! Airlines are shutting down and Your Cruise ships are dissappearing from the ports of entry? Ask Vancouver where the ships Are!!

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liberty4us Posted by liberty4us on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 02:28
Big Oil

I'm not really taking a side, I'm just asking a question the you completely avoided with that last response. What Bush and his Nazi grandfather might be up to is one thing, and the right, or lack thereof, for Congress to prevent a transaction between two parties that is undertaken by mutual, voluntary consent is quite another.

In your example of the 4-barrel carb that got 50 miles to the gallon, who bought the patent? Was it a particular oil company, or did they all pitch in? I don't know for a fact if this story is real, but assuming that it is, what, specifically, could government do to prevent it? Wouldn't interfering in a voluntary transaction between two parties be AGAINST Free Enterprise?

I'm not trying to instigate you, just engage you in a discussion that might take us to a conclusion.

Tom Mullen

www.tommullen.net
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Tom Mullen Posted by Tom Mullen on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 02:50
If there is an engine out there

(sounds like there is) that can provide us with incredible mileage and big oil is sitting on it to better facilitate their forced rape of the entire US economy then we should get a hold of the engine -- even if we have to nuke the board meeting.

There is something very evil about inflicting mass suffering on the economy and the environment if it is unnecessary. I'm sure Locke said something about this.

AdamAdamR Posted by AdamAdamR on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 16:44
Locke said

that property rights overrode the consent of the majority. He would stand behind the oil companies in this one and so would I. I make this comment with the firm belief that this is an urban legend (it has all of the earmarks), but even if it weren't, the oil company(ies) would be well within their rights. The transaction as it is described in the post was between the inventor and "Big Oil" (not sure who exactly "big oil" is). The inventor sold the rights to "Big Oil" in a transaction of mutual, voluntary consent. The inventor was 100% owner of the property before the transaction, and "Big Oil" was the rightful 100% owner fo the property after the transaction. Big Oil would have every right in this case to sell the invention at any price they wished, or to not sell it at all. Property rights don't exist for the convenience of the collective, they exist to protect the individual. If you loot "Big Oil's" property here, you might as well say there are no property rights (which our society has all but done anyway).

Tom Mullen

www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs

Tom Mullen Posted by Tom Mullen on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 16:52
I see your point in theory

but I think, practically speaking -- had the owner of the patent refused to cooperate he would've become so distraught that he committed suicide by multiple blasts to the head.

If you take away the likelihood of extortion, blackmail, and death threats and just leave competition -- then the free market would suggest that the patent owner go ahead with his super engine and put all the oil co's out of business.

We know how Big Oil feels about respecting property rights, and voluntary consent (i.e. Iraq) so I'm sure this transaction was not so clean.

What did Locke say about contracts signed under the barrel of a gun?

AdamAdamR Posted by AdamAdamR on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 16:57
then it would be invalid

However, that is not what was claimed in the original post. It is also not unrealistic to think that "Big Oil" (if they actually exist) could not offer so much money to the inventor that it would be a better move to take it than go through the trouble and risk of bringing his product to market - only to hope he made more than Big Oil offered him in the beginning. So, the transaction would be perhaps more believable without coercion and merely a sum of money to large to turn down.

My real problem with stories like this is that they tend to deflect responsibility for our problems onto some mysterious "Dr. Evil" who is beyond our control. In reality, oil prices are what they are mostly because of monetary inflation. Monetary inflation is the result of, more than anything else, our huge welfare programs and other attempts by every segment of society to somehow use the force of government to loot everyone else. ONce we face this, we will start working towards slaying the REAL dragons, not the mysterious "Big Oil."

Tom Mullen

www.tommullen.net
www.myspace.com/skepticsongs

Tom Mullen Posted by Tom Mullen on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 17:03
> My real problem with

> My real problem with stories like this is that they tend to deflect responsibility for our problems onto some mysterious "Dr. Evil" who is beyond our control.

you get enough people thinking like that, next thing you know energy companies are nationalized because they have to work for the people. the sad thing is that this simple idea of property rights and competition is not at all understood by most people. they get it when it comes to their house and car, but as soon as someone has a dozen houses and cars the government must do something about it because clearly the man is ripping all of us off.

awesomo5000 Posted by awesomo5000 on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 18:30
1950's

What does it matter .. That was 58 years or so ago .. It did happen, But so did world war 1 in 1918 and world war II in 1941. Lets get back to LIMITED GOVERNMENT, And a constitutional government!!!
I'm for the legalization of Hemp and lets hope this guy with the "Algae" dosen't get eliminated or bought out in the interest of big business .. like
Paul Harvey says, Thats the rest of the story!

Remember the Words you say keep them soft and sweet You never know from day to day which one's you'll have to eat! www.tiptopwebsite.com/liberty4us

liberty4us Posted by liberty4us on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 03:21
Email to a friend of mine from Hawaii

Aloha Milson

In Hawai'i gas is at $4.50 a gallon, rent for a studio in downtown Honolulu is at $2,300.00 a month, a 5 pound box of chicken costs $6.00, milk is also at $6.00 a gallon, electricity has
gone up 75% and the cost for water has gone up 50% and rising. It's time to get back to basics. Farm our own food and maintain our water resources by growing taro, herbs and veggies.
Most importantly is knowing God, a higher being who created this world, our ancestors and helpers do exist and to have faith in that, not fear.

It's no coincidence that a world wide crisis such as oil has taken place. It's all in the plan for the one world order...the recession has officially been open for season. Many people will die.
Those who have the resources are causing a catastrophic situation on purpose and that is not good. We are in the middle of the struggle for freedom in Hawai'i from hostage to human
beings, not a commodity/product of the elite rich.

We trust that God will do what is right in his time. Aloha no. (Love to you)

Me Kealoha PumehanaR. Kawehi Kanui

Remember the Words you say keep them soft and sweet You never know from day to day which one's you'll have to eat! www.tiptopwebsite.com/liberty4us

liberty4us Posted by liberty4us on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 04:23
funny. i just typed up a

funny. i just typed up a couple of paragraphs on his comment but decided to let it go. i think he's a little bit confused about a lot of things.

awesomo5000 Posted by awesomo5000 on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 01:29
Car Engine runs on Air

The Compressed Air Car developed by Motor Development International (MDI) Founder Guy Negre might be the best thing to have happened to the motor engine in years.

The $12,700 CityCAT, one of the planned Air Car models, can hit 68 mph and has a range of 125 miles. It will take only a few minutes for the CityCAT to refuel at gas stations equipped with custom air compressor units. MDI says it should cost only around $2 to fill the car up with 340 liters of air!

The Air Car will be starting production relatively soon, thanks to India 's TATA Motors. Forget corn! There's fuel, there's renewable fuel, and then there's user-renewable fuel! What can be better than air?
The six-seater taxi should be available in India this year - 2008
This is the same company which, a few months back, came out with a car that costs only $2,500.00 new (but it's not available in the U.S., why does that not surprise me?).

A non polluting vehicle that eliminates the reason to buy gasoline from off shore companies. How bad is that?

Its4America Posted by Its4America on Mon, 06/30/2008 - 00:29
INDUSTRIAL HEMP

H.R. 1009 Introduced in Congress ..
Bill Would Allow States to Legally Grow Hemp
Ask your Member of Congress to Support
The "Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2007"

http://capwiz.com/votehemp/issues/alert/?alertid=9370876&type=CO

I've already sent this to my Congressman Rob Bishop!
Lets get the ball rolling!
Two states have already been approved.

Wake Up America
http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=liberty4us&pag...

.. later

1newlife Posted by 1newlife on Sun, 06/29/2008 - 22:39
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