Lose your house, lose your vote
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Type of Content: Article The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day. “We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed. Read »
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This was the position of Hamilton, who should justifiably be considered the first "neo con." He truly was a statist and the poisoned apple in the barrell of our noble founding fathers.
The idea that only landowners should vote has nothing to do with property rights. I know people of great wealth who CHOOSE not to own land or a house (I'm wishing I was as smart as them right now), but still have a lot more property to protect than most Americans.
The protections against the tyranny of the majority were built into the Constitution as well as they could be (probably better under the Articles of Confederation, which provided no executive or separate judiciary).
It is important to remember what the constitutional limits on government were designed to protect us from: they were designed to protect us from Democracy. Madison said so clearly in a letter to Jefferson. We simply have chosen to ignore the Constitution, mostly for the purposes of welfare and warfare.
Tom Mullen
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"Question with boldness even the existence of a God" - Thomas Jefferson
Or is my interpretation correct - As I understand the Founder's intent the issue revolved around what is a "Free Person." And, using that interpretation included would be those who are not only land owners, but also those who are eligible to be landowners whether or not they are in fact.
As the historic divide between Hamilton and Jefferson illustrates. As the Constitution leaves it to the states, I don't think you can definitively pin down "the founders" on voter eligibility. It is important to remember the sovereignty that each state retained - the people didn't originally choose the Senators, the states did. However, I believe your interpretation is correct for most of the founders. If Hamilton had his way, America would have looked a lot like Great Britain at the time, with a distinct set of classes with different privileges. Of course, in his Federalist writings, he doesn't reveal those intentions, as he is trying to sell the Constitution to the people of NY.
Tom Mullen
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"Question with boldness even the existence of a God" - Thomas Jefferson
Yes, they were divided into several camps. Hamilton, et al held the belief that rights were conferred by the state, as opposed to the Jefferson camp who maintained the belief of Natural Rights. Perhaps therein lies the basis of the conflict of thought in the present writings?
I think you should have to be a land owner to vote in the first place. That is how the founding fathers intended it. You should also have to pass a literacy test as well like you had to until Communist "civil rights" leaders complained that blacks were disenfranchised because they couldn't pass.
There are many of us patriots who could pass a literacy test, but would be excluded because of the land owner requirement...would you take away our right to vote, too? With no right to vote,would we also be free from the burden of Taxation on work for pay?
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone; and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.--John Quincy Adams
The whole mess this country is in because of the banking cartel and now they've reached their evil claws into the voting booth?
What am I saying their evil claws are in everything. The two choices for president are their choices. Propped up, incompetent and ignorant and sold like cola to a stupid public. I guess they don't care about being sneaky anymore, what the hell can we do anyway?
And lets not forget the electronic voting machines, bankers again. We have lost this country and it sickens me to no end.
The masses being led like lemmings to complete slavery.